First Edit: Red River of the North
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Red River of the North

How many do you keep below?
You, who devour women and girls
like chocolate covered raisins.

Are you satisfied knowing the proper weight
to sink them?
Did you feel jilted when that one slipped away,
resurfacing,
wrapped in a Costco blanket?

You'd probably brag to the oceans if you could:
compare your body counts,
wear ribbons for special numbers,
finish your beers, stumble home.

We could discover all your secrets,
but the cost is measured in dollars
on a white page,
justice just another waterlogged body.


Red River of the North


What secrets do you keep below?
You, who devour woman and girls
like chocolate covered raisins,
occasionally vomiting one back up.

Are you satisfied knowing the proper weight
to sink a person forever?
Do you feel lovelorned when one slips away,
resurfacing, wrapped in a Costco blanket?

You'd probably brag to the oceans if you could:
compare your body counts,
wear ribbons for special numbers,
finish your beers, go home, and dare to dream.

Someday we might discover your secrets.
The cost measured in dollars on a white page,
justice just another waterlogged body.
Those who knew you, ashamed for a moment
that'll pass like any other.
Your apology typed and read by someone else.
Time is the best editor.
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#2
Definitely something here, Richard
but it seems a bit unclear.

I like the 'Costco blanket' line
(though perhaps 'abandoned' for 'lovelorn')
but I don't think it does quite do enough...yet.

L4 is somewhat contrary to L5/6
(either 'occasionally' or 'forever')

How about;
Red River of the North

You'd probably brag to the oceans
if you could: compare your body counts,
You, who devour woman and girls
like chocolate covered raisins,
occasionally vomiting one back up.


Best, Knot.
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#3
Hey Knot,
Thanks for the feedback. I was unsure about the use of "lovelorn", so I thought I'd see what people thought of it. You got me thinking about the line order, which is a step in the right direction for an edit.

Thanks again,
Richard
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#4
I'm on the border of feeling stupid and absurdly puzzled about the meaning of this poem. Is this related to some news I didn't read?

You, who devour woman and girls
like chocolate covered raisins,

One woman? Multiple girls? And they are all like chocolate covered raisins? A Costco blanket?

Man, I'm sorry, but where in the world did all of this come from?

I don't mean to be any kind of nuisance: I'm genuinely curious. What am I missing besides the entire point of this collection of words?

To be fair, I like these lines very much:

You'd probably brag to the oceans if you could:
compare your body counts,
...
finish your beers, go home, and dare to dream.


I did finish a beer, however.
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(03-25-2018, 04:02 AM)Richard Wrote:  Red River of the North

What secrets do you keep below?             
You, who devour woman and girls                spelling suggestions: "devours" and "women".
like chocolate covered raisins,    
occasionally vomiting one back up.         "back up" is not necessary. i´m not too fond  of the image alltogether.

Are you satisfied knowing the proper weight      
to sink a person forever?                                          you could leave out "forever" (it´s contradicting the next lines). maybe just write "them" instead of "a person".
Do you feel lovelorned when one slips away,                   
resurfacing, wrapped in a Costco blanket?                    maybe "to resurface elsewhere". i don´t get the significance of the blanket.

You'd probably brag to the oceans if you could:              this could just be: "you brag to the oceans" (because i see no reason why the person adressed could not do that, the oceans are patient and good listeners)
compare your body counts,
wear ribbons for special numbers,                                       
finish your beers, go home, and dare to dream.             maybe leave out "beers" and "going home", it doesn´t fit to "dare to dream".

Someday we might discover your secrets.                          it´s a bit hard to figure out who´s actually adressed here and why the subject now uses 1st person plural ("we")   
The cost measured in dollars on a white page,             i´d not leave out the nouns, e.g. "is" in front of "measured" and "typed" as well as "are" in front of "ashamed".
justice just another waterlogged body.                            
Those who knew you, ashamed for a moment          
that'll pass like any other.                                        
Your apology typed and read by someone else.           
...
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#6
Hey Danny and vagabond,
Thanks for the feedback. There is more to this than just the Red River, but I don't want to give too much away yet.

Thanks again,
Richard
Time is the best editor.
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#7
Hey all,
Made some changes to this one. Feel free to let me know if it's going in the right direction.

Thanks in advance,
Richard
Time is the best editor.
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#8
(03-25-2018, 04:02 AM)Richard Wrote:  Red River of the North

How many do you keep below?
You, who devour women and girls The article I read on this started and ended with dead boys -- this line keeps it sinister, sure, but at the cost of limiting the truth.
like chocolate covered raisins.

Are you satisfied knowing the proper weight 
to sink them? I prefer, for sonics, "Are you satisfied to know the proper weight / for sinking them?" That said, I don't really know the weight of what I just ate, not unless I measure it beforehand, so I'm not sure how apt these two lines are.
Did you feel jilted when that one slipped away,
resurfacing, I prefer "Did you feel jilted when that one slipped away / and resurfaced"...
wrapped in a Costco blanket? ...even (though I'm sure there are alternative wordings) at the cost of this detail, since this detail feels like it puts too much focus on that specific person.

You'd probably brag to the oceans if you could:
compare your body counts,
wear ribbons for special numbers,
finish your beers, stumble home. I like this stanza. It palpably links the violence behind the Red River of the North to something wrong with our (your?) culture. 

We could discover all your secrets,
but the cost is measured in dollars
on a white page,
justice just another waterlogged body. I'm a little on-the-fence about this stanza, though. Even if this piece is meant (as I presume it is) as a call to Drag the Red, suddenly critiquing some other aspect of our (your?) culture with "the cost is measured in dollars / on a white page", aside from feeling a little incomplete (dollars on a white page?), feels like it moves away from the subtle comprehension of the earlier stanzas, particularly the penultimate one. Certainly money is one of their issues, but there's an issue behind that issue that I think the penultimate stanza better touches upon -- that is, if my reading's right.
But returning to a less contentious detail, "waterlogged body" is a bit of a sonic dud for me, with the term not being vivid enough, and the line ending with an unstressed syllable. Maybe synecdoche (which, at least as based on that article I read, is also not): say, "waterlogged foot"?
A satisfying read. Yer going the right way.
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#9
Hey RiverNotch,
Thanks for the feedback. I was unsure about the changes I made to the last stanza, so I appreciate your thoughts there. I also like many of your wording suggestions. I will give this some more thought before revising again. By the way, you are completely correct in presuming this is a call to Drag the Red.

Thanks again,
Richard
Time is the best editor.
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