07-09-2016, 12:56 AM
(07-08-2016, 11:33 PM)rowens Wrote: The simple point of my argument is that the individual should, not want to do any old thing and call it art, but want to do their best, on their own, to be the best, on their own but in relation to others. Other writers who can dwarf them, readers who can judge their work no good. So it's an endless struggle for artistic merit, not a self-centered self-apologist. I can understand an artist suffering failure, taking it on the nose. I don't like all the humble talk between artists and their artist friends. It comes through in the work.understood. and i definitely agree with your point about this pretend humility. i think there is a way to be confident and not be a dick about it, though [but, at the end of the day, so what if you're a dick about it--most artists are arrogant wankers anyway, regardless of how humble they pretend to be. and, quality speaks for itself, wanker or not.]. but all this my poetry is shit nonsense some people like to preface their work with is tedious and just as egocentric.
i suppose i just don't get the 'on their own' bit, is all. but it's no big deal. edit, don't edit. it makes no difference to. . . well, anyone. i just don't see the alternative as being a big deal either. and i think the benefits far outweigh the risks. in fact, there are no risks only benefits in making an edit. if it doesn't work blame the twat that made the suggestion. if it works take credit for creating the core of the piece and recognising a good suggestion when you saw one. or, failing those dickish moves, accept nothing in this life is a singular effort. that is true humility.
oh, and just something i recently thought after your original comment about not editing but 'doing better next time'. that's a shifty way of going about things, in my opinion. it's like being given advice that you utilise at a later date but without having to give credit to the person who gave the advice; and still live under the pretence of doing it on your own.
oh well, i think i am spent with this discussion now. it was interesting. i learnt stuff. fanks.
