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(10-09-2011, 03:56 PM)Leanne Wrote: There's a rumour going around that The Pig Pen is a site that's really quite concerned with poetry... some even speak such things in derogatory tones, as if that's a bad thing... I'm happy for such people to keep talking, because for every hundred people that can't be bothered putting in the effort we ask, there's the one who genuinely desires this rare kind of environment and that's the one I want to find us.
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I like the art press idea!
Has anything changed in the world of self-publishing since this was written? Is anyone considering it?
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I'm working with a group of outstanding editors at the moment to see if we can revive an old journal project of ours -- it was a victim of the GFC but it was a big blow to recover from and we're still hashing out some funding.
Running a print journal effectively is an expensive venture, since we believe that contributors should be paid in both actual money and copies. E-zines are all well and good but it's so damn nice to have something to put on your bookshelf.
On a personal note, I won't be publishing again in any kind of traditional format (even e-versions) but I am in the process of collaborating with some visual artists to see what sort of fusion we can come up with.
It could be worse
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It's so way to self publish these days why wouldn't you. Ebook it on amazon
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(07-12-2016, 04:42 AM)Leanne Wrote: I'm working with a group of outstanding editors at the moment to see if we can revive an old journal project of ours -- it was a victim of the GFC but it was a big blow to recover from and we're still hashing out some funding.
Running a print journal effectively is an expensive venture, since we believe that contributors should be paid in both actual money and copies. E-zines are all well and good but it's so damn nice to have something to put on your bookshelf.
On a personal note, I won't be publishing again in any kind of traditional format (even e-versions) but I am in the process of collaborating with some visual artists to see what sort of fusion we can come up with.
Oh, these projects sound amazing! Hooray for the arts! We poets are so pathetically neglected
Please keep us posted if there's anything we can do to help out!
And, yes, I also love the feel of a book in my hands. Screens don't cut it for me. Even though I'm using one right now
(07-12-2016, 05:05 AM)Pdeathstar Wrote: It's so way to self publish these days why wouldn't you. Ebook it on amazon
Do you have links to any articles explaining how to do this?
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https://kdp.amazon.com/help?topicId=A2VHRJZXET0TWT
Leanne has an interesting idea. it's a lot easier for graphics/art to go viral....
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(07-12-2016, 04:42 AM)Leanne Wrote: I'm working with a group of outstanding editors at the moment to see if we can revive an old journal project of ours -- it was a victim of the GFC but it was a big blow to recover from and we're still hashing out some funding.
Running a print journal effectively is an expensive venture, since we believe that contributors should be paid in both actual money and copies. E-zines are all well and good but it's so damn nice to have something to put on your bookshelf.
On a personal note, I won't be publishing again in any kind of traditional format (even e-versions) but I am in the process of collaborating with some visual artists to see what sort of fusion we can come up with.
Ooh, illuminations! Neat --- like Blake or Church Tradition, eh?
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I don't consider posting online to be publishing, I consider it to be posting online. Even when someone else is doing the posting. In fact, I don't consider reading online to be reading, it's just looking at. You're not reading this, you're just looking at it. A computer is nothing but a glorified flashlight.
Plus, when you self-publish you're supposed to do a lot of social networking to publicize yourself. And who does social networking? I don't know anyone who does.
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(07-12-2016, 11:47 AM)lizziep Wrote: (07-12-2016, 04:42 AM)Leanne Wrote: I'm working with a group of outstanding editors at the moment to see if we can revive an old journal project of ours -- it was a victim of the GFC but it was a big blow to recover from and we're still hashing out some funding.
Running a print journal effectively is an expensive venture, since we believe that contributors should be paid in both actual money and copies. E-zines are all well and good but it's so damn nice to have something to put on your bookshelf.
On a personal note, I won't be publishing again in any kind of traditional format (even e-versions) but I am in the process of collaborating with some visual artists to see what sort of fusion we can come up with.
Oh, these projects sound amazing! Hooray for the arts! We poets are so pathetically neglected
Please keep us posted if there's anything we can do to help out!
And, yes, I also love the feel of a book in my hands. Screens don't cut it for me. Even though I'm using one right now 
(07-12-2016, 05:05 AM)Pdeathstar Wrote: It's so way to self publish these days why wouldn't you. Ebook it on amazon
Do you have links to any articles explaining how to do this?
I posted an article walking people through the process of self-publishing on Amazon at one point, even creating a book out of poems I had posted here,but I may have removed the article when I removed the book from Amazon. (Honestly cannot remember or find the article)