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It might be helpful to ask those who eschew rules, if they would care to play a game. I call it 'Sanz'. ''Yes'' says Miss I-won't accept-rules-or-any- of-that-shit ''How do you play?'' chips in Mr I-don't brook-any-restraints.
''You just play''. Get it? No suggestion of a cricket bat, or playing-cards, or a ball, or darts. Nothing. Just get on with the game. Then see if rules have some uses in some circumstances. Meet at The Anarchist Pub, 7-30, first Thursday of each month. Upstairs room, ask for Karl.
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(10-27-2012, 08:34 AM)Leanne Wrote: > <
Indeed, Edward, indeed.
Karl won't be there, of course, he doesn't subscribe to the structure of time.
Nor should the others expect him. Actually, he's busy writing 'Das Kapital: The Sequel !' for the well-known Hsieh -Hsieh Lucky Corp of Hollywood, based in Guangdong.
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Quote:Meet at The Anarchist Pub, 7-30, first Thursday of each month. Upstairs room, ask for Karl.
i shall ask for beetroot? is that allowed?
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of course, red food only -- so it's beetroot or toffee apples
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yes, karl borscht!
back on topic. can rhythm be equated to or with rhyme?
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Rhythm is for music... meter for poetry 
I tend to think that rhyme is wasted without meter -- and it doesn't have to be regular meter, but rhymes work much more effectively if you pay attention to the patterns the sounds form.
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okay meter and rhyme. and yes i agree, i think with good meter you get a less invasive rhyme. one that doesn't feel forced. (but not always of course)
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Nope, not always. Some people just think "tick tock tick tock" is the only possibility when it comes to meter, and then force their rhymes into nasty inverted syntax that makes you want to rip your eyeballs out.
That's why we practise
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that's why i said but not always of course 
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Whatevs, billy
I'm yet to hear a good argument against using any and all techniques at your disposal. Ignoring possibilities limits poetry in very unnatural ways.
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(10-28-2012, 09:37 AM)Leanne Wrote: Nope, not always. Some people just think "tick tock tick tock" is the only possibility when it comes to meter, and then force their rhymes into nasty inverted syntax that makes you want to rip your eyeballs out. PREZZACTLY.
And I will freely admit that after reading copious amounts of vomitous (may or may not be a real word)emo-drug-cutter-sex laced-abuse 'poems' with nasty inverted syntax cliche ridden rhyming poetry I now have a Pavlovian like reflex that causes my brain to shrink in on itself and my eyeballs start screaming for help when I come across rhyming poetry.
So I am generally biased against it. It's like my personal version of prejudice. I don't give two shits who you are what you look like or where you came from, but if you write what I just described above I can't take you seriously.
I'm not intentionally being a bitch. Honest.
As I said before, I've encountered some very good modern pieces here that rhyme, but I attribute that to the tuts and those of you who excel at such things.
I do not, and I openly cop to that.
PS. If you can, try your hand at giving some of the others a bit of feedback. If you already have, thanks, can you do some more?
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guilty i am sometimes the yoda speak of, unintentional it is, not consciously something do i want.  
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