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they're allowed on the stairs and in the elevators and in or on any part of the building the embassy doesn't rent or own.
they've been inside the building since the saga began, only a few rooms of the building belong to the embassy.
it's one of the reasons they can't smuggle him out. it's just the media and youtubers playing hype the idiot 
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(08-21-2012, 11:26 AM)billy Wrote: they're allowed on the stairs and in the elevators and in or on any part of the building the embassy doesn't rent or own.
they've been inside the building since the saga began, only a few rooms of the building belong to the embassy.
it's one of the reasons they can't smuggle him out. it's just the media and youtubers playing hype the idiot well I own buildings and the steps are part of it. cops storming( as in running ) up the back fire escapes in the dead of night! ha! pull the other one.. cops never run unless its to go home, its ok, the stuff the yanks never wanted exposed is now being seen real nasty stuff. see you have a storm over there close by. stay in your playbpen. we dont want you getting blown away little man>  <
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i think this one is passing us by. the building has joint tenants so all corridors and steps outside each of the tenants holds are classed as communal property. they'e only allowed access or egress as a right of way. the front steps and any subsequent steps outside their rented space don't belong to them or the embassy. nasty? yes, new? no, unexpected? never. will anything change, you bet your arse...it will be more strictly controlled, more deeply hidden and more vigorously guarded. did or does anybody give a toss? not many. has anyone read more than one or ten of the leaked files? no on;y the ones on the news or in a news paper. the u.s. are pissed at getting caught with their pants down and assange hates america, ever since they caught him hacking their defence secrets. life goes on and assange has more or less done to himself anything the usa could have done. the big ole nasty usa is probably giggling at juliennes stupidity. ( the moron should have gone to eckidor after the alleged rape and asked for asylum there)
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There is not much point in my repeating my distate for this man, or the actual terms of the Vienna Conventions. However, I cannot understand why this extremely poor country needs an Embassy in Hans Crescent. It is obscene. Even a few rooms in Penge would be pushing it....
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Ecuador's stance on freedom of press is summed up Quote:Corruption, inefficiency, and political influence have plagued the Ecuadorian judiciary for many years. In a referendum held in 2011, President Rafael Correa obtained a popular mandate for constitutional reforms that could significantly increase government powers to constrain media and influence the appointment and dismissal of judges.
Ecuador’s laws restrict freedom of expression, and government officials, including Correa, use these laws against his critics. Those involved in protests marred by violence may be prosecuted on inflated and inappropriate ‘terrorism’ charges.
Impunity for police abuses is widespread and perpetrators of murders often attributed to a “settling of accounts” between criminal gangs are rarely prosecuted and convicted.
uk politicians dropped a bollox, of that there's no doubt. they won't storm the embassy but where they dropped the bollox was inferring they would. now ecaudor have a voice in the world spouting all this freedom of the press and human rights stuff it so radically oppresses back home.
thinking about it, Ecuador is everything assange stands against (arguably ) as are russia who hosted his tv talk show. so why ask for asylum there, why not any number of other countries.....why not the australian embassy  his own embassy. why not the iranian embassy...probably not, even assange isn't that much of a moron. would australia exorcise the man to the usa or sweden? so my advice to the assange is...watch your mouth and your back, they don't do tags instead of bail in Ecuador
to abu's point. i'm sure they only have a few rooms of the building but even that is cash that could be better spent on less expensive premises, i bet harrods are happy of the crowds though
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I don’t care if the embassy is in the dunney down the back yard. They can’t just enter and invade the territory of another country because that is an act of war the man himself no longer counts.
Sweden is to blame for this whole thing for being the dogs breakfast for the yanks
And the yanks will get him dead or alive, And if not, don’t cry foul if a few thousand British people go astray in other countries. Yes that will happen Gillard was more than happy to step aside and condemn him as guilty the first day this broke 18 months ago .
I will bet your little green bonnet billy they are looking at ways of killing him off right now soonerthen let him go!!
shit I'v had a busy day> why am I reading this! it's depressing. I just want to go over there and kick some arse's.
I mean where's your common sence men! a women dosen't go back for a 2nd night to fuck with a man who raped her some nights before!.. it is beyond belief, then to compare performaces with the other women.. ? come on? think it through, you should be so lucky!!
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Okay, I've been reading this with interest - personally I would side with Assange because I really like the fact he shit-stirred with goverment files and whatnot, even though he is a dick - and to be honest Billy, I get some of what you're saying, but I also think you are underestimating the situation and it's relevance. It doesn't really matter how actually useful anything Assange dug up was, the fact is, he dug it up and made it public. He isn't going to be the last of his kind. Whatever you want to say of him, it takes a lot of guts (or stupidity) to do something like that. Even if the work itself isn't him, his face is all over it, and I would be enormously surprised if he genuinely prized fame over freedom/his life. Whatever, really, I don't know him, I can only judge him based on his actions, which thus far I've always approved of. But the real importance of it is it means people are fighting for freedom of information and are finally starting to retaliate against corrupt government. It's a stepping stone.
Also, he lied about wearing a condom? Not only does that sound like bullshit, but from personal experience, a penis and a condom covered penis feel pretty different. I can't speak for every girl in the world, but I can tell the difference to the point I find it harder to enjoy sex when using them, so I would say she is lying.
Although I admit I don't understand why Ecuador is really getting involved. The president is very corrupt. But they do have some good policies as well as shite ones, much like every other government in the world. Censorship happens everywhere, even in countries which claim it doesn't c: Asides from that, it is definitely not okay for the UK to fuck with Ecuador over this.
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(08-22-2012, 07:12 PM)Universalchild Wrote: Asides from that, it is definitely not okay for the UK to fuck with Ecuador over this.
yes, because they can think it over for a few days and pop out a Ecuadoebrit-brat if a condom big enough to cover wales is not used.
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(08-22-2012, 07:12 PM)Universalchild Wrote: Okay, I've been reading this with interest - personally I would side with Assange because I really like the fact he shit-stirred with goverment files and whatnot, even though he is a dick
and the difference it made was what? someone is facing life imprisonment, whistleblowing has probably been put back 20 years, let's face it; who in the military is going to trust another assange with those type of leaked docs...if they can have access to them that is. if people thouight secrets were hidden before i can promise you that now they're hidden to the nth degree and probably a lot more than before. so what did assange do?
Quote:- and to be honest Billy, I get some of what you're saying, but I also think you are underestimating the situation and it's relevance. It doesn't really matter how actually useful anything Assange dug up was, the fact is, he dug it up and made it public. He isn't going to be the last of his kind. Whatever you want to say of him, it takes a lot of guts (or stupidity) to do something like that.
think of watergate, think of villachi papers. that was journalism because of it, and other stories investigative journalism will continue. (except in ecuador), assange didn't do a water gate, some one gave him stuff which he got paid for. he even claimed copyright on the files for god sake and tried to keep them hidded so they would be a fucking cash cow. he hasn't furthered any kind of journalism, he's done nothing but facilitate a mans imprisonment for life. what else did he do that made a difference? seriously, it seems that just printing stuff that doesn't make a difference should make someone great? and you're correct, he won't be the last of his kind, they'll always be someone round the next corner looking for the opportunity to make money out another mans freedom. was it worth the life of another? seriously was it? if not then why is he a hero?
Quote:Even if the work itself isn't him, his face is all over it,
yes, and it was over all the money it generated as well. he used most of wiki funds flying around the world in 1st class and staying at top hotels, his other workers at wiki got jack shit (they all thought it was a cause, not a free ride) his own people at wiki denounced him as a parasite.
Quote:and I would be enormously surprised if he genuinely prized fame over freedom/his life. Whatever, really, I don't know him,
his record speaks for himself. a talk show in russia...i ask you 
Quote: I can only judge him based on his actions, which thus far I've always approved of. But the real importance of it is it means people are fighting for freedom of information and are finally starting to retaliate against corrupt government. It's a stepping stone.
they've been doing that for time immemorial. you want corruption, take a close look at how assange left a man to die after using him to print money. he hasn't helped in freedom fighting, he's made it stall, people who would normally. tell their story or give secret info away are now thinking 4 times about it first. i think wiki has had one or 2 pieces of fluff that they reported since poor private manning. what else has been achieved? a few people standing outside a courtroom or an embassy. where did all those who placed bail for him go? oh that's right he shafted them up the arse as well
Quote:Also, he lied about wearing a condom? Not only does that sound like bullshit, but from personal experience, a penis and a condom covered penis feel pretty different. I can't speak for every girl in the world, but I can tell the difference to the point I find it harder to enjoy sex when using them, so I would say she is lying.
yes that';s possible and a lot of people think the same as you, even i find it hard to believe it was rape, i'd say it was more of deception. but we don't know do we. we only surmise, it's okay for us to try two prostitutes without going to court isn't it, but never good ole assange, god forbid assange ever goes to court. if he's innocent let him fave trial, get found innocent and sue the ass off those involved, he's goo at shit like that.
Quote:Although I admit I don't understand why Ecuador is really getting involved. The president is very corrupt. But they do have some good policies as well as shite ones, much like every other government in the world. Censorship happens everywhere, even in countries which claim it doesn't c: Asides from that, it is definitely not okay for the UK to fuck with Ecuador over this.
not censorship like they have there. here's a thing, if assange had a gripe with ecuador and they had hold of him, would he have been under house arrest? or in some rat infested cell? and everyone including the UK know it's not okay to fuck with another embassy. they got a bit mouthy and threatened someone, everyones done the same thing (threaten someone knowing it something they could never carry out.) everyone and his dogs knows the place will never be invaded, but it's a goo way of getting people to support ecuador and bash the british what what.
(08-22-2012, 11:42 PM)Bronte Wrote: (08-22-2012, 07:12 PM)Universalchild Wrote: Asides from that, it is definitely not okay for the UK to fuck with Ecuador over this.
yes, because they can think it over for a few days and pop out a Ecuadoebrit-brat if a condom big enough to cover wales is not used.
it lacked much of a punch emily
i'm not sure how clear the world wants it to be, but no one will invade anyone's embassy.
wouldn't it be an ecuadoauz-brat?
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