03-27-2010, 05:04 PM
(03-26-2010, 06:33 PM)Benny2guns Wrote:i use the word money for what it is. collateral for the payment of goods.(03-26-2010, 05:32 PM)billy Wrote: while some wars are fought over money. the 2nd world war wasn'tThats your opinion and not really fact as far as it not being about money goes. It most certainly was fought over money and every other war along with it. Thats mine. You use the word money again like it is really something of value. It is not but a paper that represents someones debt. Iraq certainly was fought for gain by all the players involved. If there were none it would not have happened. The Iraq war made the people that control the currency of the USA a fortune and thats a fact.
it was started because of hatered. money was just a side issue. it was started because hitler and his pals though the arryan race were superior beings. it's easy to equate war with money but more often war is about control. (not of the wealth) of the person; you will do this, you won't do that etc. war was and still is often a product of religious belief.
i still giggle when i see that the usa went to war for the iraq oil, and so they could make money.
war is sometetimes used to effect an outcome outside the war zone. and yes, i think the falklands was one such war. it was never about money. the falklands was about keeping the conservatives in power.
the same with iraq, the main reason was never money. in fact that war put the world into a downward spiral financially. that war was also about keeping the sitting gov in power.
yes, you'll all tell me they made money from waepon sales and other bullshit.
the iraq qar bankrupted the usa.
source, give a source benny. that some companies made cash this thing you say i don;t know the meaning of. of course they did. though if that's what they made. the thing you say it's all about. this thing that has no value. they really made fuck all. well yes, of course some companies made lots of paper that represents debt. but the usa as a whole lost out big time.
if you think bush went to war for any other purpose than to boost his party's chance at being relected then thats okay. yep it's your opinion.
but please don't proliferate the your opinion isn't fact and mine is speech.
you have no fact to prover it was money based. wars are fought in general for power. and don't tell me money is power or wealth is power because it isn't, power is the ability to promote a persons will over another. ask any rag tag army if power is money or wealth or firepore and they'll laugh at you.
you only have to look at hezzbala, the ira, the iran, n korea, myanmar, zimbabwe and a dozen other poor undernorished armies and countries. none of these are fighting for oil or wealth. the taliban, the islamic insurgents, the tamil tigers. non of these peoples or their wars are fought because of cash or wealth. the crusades that fabled war of money. even that wasn't fought over fuckin cash. wars are fought in the main over recognition and power.money is and has always been secondary. ask any historian. first and formost war is usually about territory. it's why films depict someone who wants to dominate the world.
so please, give a real fact or two that the iraq wwar was fought for cash or oil.
