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		The time has come to discussthe Saxon vernacular attraction
 that draws us to words which
 puritanical attempts to cleanse
 past from present
 dismiss as unsuitable
 for the poetic palate
 
 And yet, let us consider
 Beowulf, son of Ecgtheow,
 who, when faced with Grendel’s mother,
 might just have let a small syllable
 pass his brave lips
 to give him greater strength
 before he swung his mighty Hrunting blade
 
 Poetry forgets that fuck
 
 Perhaps Harold of Wessex
 winning the Battle of Hastings
 seeing off the challenge of vile William
 – Bill the Dastardly Bastard –
 sure that the throne was his when,
 turning, he copped an arrow to the eye,
 might have uttered that all-purpose Saxon
 syllable before he expired in the mud
 
 Poetry forgets that fuck
 
 Maybe Macbeth, fought into a corner
 for a crime no man should commit
 -- listening to his wife --
 desperately offered Macduff
 lands, castles, nobility
 to which, disdainful, Macduff might have uttered
 that all purpose word, coupled with an “off”,
 before striking the murderer down
 
 Poetry forgets that fuck
 
 For the sake of sanitation
 we are confronted with historical inaccuracy
 at every turn of phrase
 
 There are fouler words than fuck
 and one is censorship
 
 
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		A gut all purpose West Germanic wort! (bloody consonant shifts...thuck!)  Although I have never seen anybody go that far out of their way to justify fuck! 
	 
How long after picking up the brush, the first masterpiece?
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		Loved it champ! Without a fuck it'd be a lonesome trip, but who the fuck needs censorship!!   
Oh what a wicket web we weave!
 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		 (04-11-2012, 09:31 AM)Leanne Wrote:  The time has come to discussthe Saxon vernacular attraction
 that draws us to words which
 puritanical attempts to cleanse
 past from present
 dismiss as unsuitable
 for the poetic palate
 
 And yet, let us consider
 Beowulf, son of Ecgtheow,
 who, when faced with Grendel’s mother,
 might just have let a small syllable
 pass his brave lips
 to give him greater strength
 before he swung his mighty Hrunting blade
 
 Poetry forgets that fuck
 
 Perhaps Harold of Wessex
 winning the Battle of Hastings
 seeing off the challenge of vile William
 – Bill the Dastardly Bastard –
 sure that the throne was his when,
 turning, he copped an arrow to the eye,
 might have uttered that all-purpose Saxon
 syllable before he expired in the mud
 
 Poetry forgets that fuck
 
 Maybe Macbeth, fought into a corner
 for a crime no man should commit
 -- listening to his wife --
 desperately offered Macduff
 lands, castles, nobility
 to which, disdainful, Macduff might have uttered
 that all purpose word, coupled with an “off”,
 before striking the murderer down
 
 Poetry forgets that fuck
 
 For the sake of sanitation
 we are confronted with historical inaccuracy
 at every turn of phrase
 
 There are fouler words than fuck
 and one is censorship
 
HRUNTING we will go, HRUNTING we wil go....eeee-iiiiii-addio HRUNTING we will go. Fuck. Spelling miskate....unless you are bloody Beowulf, that is. Tourettes for now. Toodle-pip
	 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		'Twas not just the great, Leanne, 
But also the little tithingman 
Punched by a wayward hayward 
And carniters vomiting after stinking meat 
All for the sake of the barons, 
The barons, yes, and Manor and leet 
Whose only other consolation lay, 
In the stews of Gropecunt St 
Which we prudes must needs today 
        Call Milton St
 
(This street is near the posh Barbican, and the place Gissing had for his hacks, in New Grub St. If one wishes to grope, one does not have to go far, however.)      
Excellent poem, L. I have for long thought that history is much better thought of through that kind of prism. 
	
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		I must visit that street, Abu... though I'll probably wear jeans, I think    
Thanks all.  Everyone needs a fuck now and then.
	
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		 (04-29-2012, 05:55 AM)Leanne Wrote:  I must visit that street, Abu... though I'll probably wear jeans, I think  
 Thanks all.  Everyone needs a fuck now and then.
 
What made me laugh was that someone thought the best way of covering such shame, was to use the mantle of Milton.
 
I rather like the old, slightly ribald, but plain-speaking way. In the City, there is Poultry, Cheapside (cheap from As 'shop'), and nearby is Cock St  and numerous Cock Taverns. I guess that they derive from either 'cook' (as is still is in Dutch) or just more chicken-stuff. Love Lane was love of the paid kind.
 
My son in Holland told me a story about a Dutchwoman in a restaurant, speaking of the owner: ''He has very good kok, I think!''   
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		I'd rather stuff a bird than a chicken!
	 
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