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Body mutilation and piercings
We all know piercings can be used as an art form and a sexual enhancement, but how far should people go. to some extent the same can be said for mutilation, though in some parts of the world it's mandatory. especially on female genitalia. Some African tribes scar the body with cuts as a right of passage.
so...if you had kids below the age of your countries consent. what would you allow or challange as a no deal. and why
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(12-14-2009, 10:30 AM)billy Wrote: so...if you had kids below the age of your countries consent. what would you allow or challange as a no deal. and why
At my place here, there's no age limit for piercing within any part of the body. You can even stroll around the streets and come across a 16 year old kid with piercings all over, it's nothing to us.
However, I won't allow my kids(males) to pierce, simply because i don't like the look of it & personally feels that it'll reflect a bad image on him. I'll make sure i beat the shit out of him if he ever did that.
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(12-14-2009, 01:12 PM)kentucky-kid Wrote: (12-14-2009, 10:30 AM)billy Wrote: so...if you had kids below the age of your countries consent. what would you allow or challange as a no deal. and why
At my place here, there's no age limit for piercing within any part of the body. You can even stroll around the streets and come across a 16 year old kid with piercings all over, it's nothing to us.
However, I won't allow my kids(males) to pierce, simply because i don't like the look of it & personally feels that it'll reflect a bad image on him. I'll make sure i beat the shit out of him if he ever did that.
don't kids need a parents permission.
in the uk they can't pierce a kid unless the parents with them or unless they have id which wouldn't be hard to get.
what about the girls in india who have their privates worked on.
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(12-14-2009, 01:34 PM)billy Wrote: don't kids need a parents permission.
in the uk they can't pierce a kid unless the parents with them or unless they have id which wouldn't be hard to get.
it's normal now to see kids going against their parents nowadays, right?
(12-14-2009, 01:34 PM)billy Wrote: what about the girls in india who have their privates worked on.
i think that it's some kind of custom or religious stuffs.
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never knew kids in india had their privates worked on other than ripping out their pubic hair.where did you get that info?
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12-14-2009, 01:55 PM
(This post was last modified: 12-14-2009, 01:56 PM by billy.)
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FGM= female genital mutilation.
FGM is also practised among Bohra Muslim populations in parts of India and Pakistan, and amongst Muslim populations in Malaysia and Indonesia.
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I don't think I'd forbid any kind of piercing, if I had an underage kid who wanted to get one. But I'm also a little conservative, so I do think it's a major decision.I'll likely talk to my kid about it, and make sure he/she thinks about it very, very seriously.
FGM, now that's totally different. It's done without consent (the victims are usually little girls, and I hardly think anyone would really "consent" to such a brutal procedure), and the act itself is akin to torture. Cultural relativism aside, it's still a human rights violation.
PS. If you can, try your hand at giving some of the others a bit of feedback. If you already have, thanks, can you do some more?
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(12-15-2009, 11:17 AM)addy Wrote: I don't think I'd forbid any kind of piercing, if I had an underage kid who wanted to get one. But I'm also a little conservative, so I do think it's a major decision.I'll likely talk to my kid about it, and make sure he/she thinks about it very, very seriously.
FGM, now that's totally different. It's done without consent (the victims are usually little girls, and I hardly think anyone would really "consent" to such a brutal procedure), and the act itself is akin to torture. Cultural relativism aside, it's still a human rights violation.
i have to admit, we allowed our kids to have their ear pierced at an early age.
but what happens when we get our child's ears pierced when they're only a couple of years old (many in the west do)
re the gm, actually more boys i think, it's called circumcision. not sure a boy of thirteen should be allowed to have the end of his foreskin cut off but it's a common thing in many places.
maybe not the same a FGM though. i agree that it's human rights crime. some rights should transcend culture. cutting up the genital area of preteen girls should have a world wide ban i think.
what about some rights of passage in some african tribes. the right of a thousand cuts come to mind. the guy has well reached puberty and he must be cut 1000 times. depending on how stalwart he is depends if he aquires manhood or not.
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yes,circumcision falls in the catagory of child mutilation if you ask me,the excuse often is because of hygene,as if you would cut somebody's nose off because it gets snot in it
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i don't think so either,but then again let them if they want to
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There is a difference between FGM and piercing. Mutilation involves cutting off/distorting in the female genital. Piercing is normally done by choice - even so mutilation is far worse than piercing.  leepy:
I wouldn't agree with someone smaller than 18 getting a piercing. They're bigger of age then. If they can vote they can pierce 
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so is circumcision mutilation?
is the 1000 cut ritual mutilation of tradition or both.
i can accept some kind of rights of passage etc. but some of the stuff they do is reprehensible.
i see loads of kids under the age of five with ear piercings.
have to be honest, my two girls had their ears pierced as kids. (me bad)
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my daughter had her ears and nose pierced before she was 5,this is a local tradition,everybody has it done.a little hole in an ear is entirely different then have pieces cut off your private parts,that's mutilation to me.
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for some fgm is the local tradition. though yep it's definitely different.
why don't people rebel. is it fear?
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why should they rebel?they learned from their society that it should be done for some fucked up reason or another so they'll do it to their children[don't cry,little one,it's for you own good]
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imagine you were a little girl. and you had your piss flaps cut away.
would you feel good or think... this is fuckin nasty.
i know people are indoctrinated with and by tradition but does that make it okay or right. i was brought up in a kids home little parental affection. because of it i made sure my kids wouldn't go through the same things i did. they never went hungry, they always knew we loved them. we certainly didn't abuse them because it was a pretty ritualistic thing done in many kids homes including some of the ones i was in. shouldn't we be able to see whats right and whats abominal.
as a kid i was brought up by different factions to be racist. at one stage i really believed black people were inferior. once i could actually think for myself i came to realize that it's the racist whose inferior. i felt dirty for how i'd thought. i'm cool with it now because i can see it wasn't my fault. though it would have been had i carried on the way i'd been brought up. don't we sometimes have to say; enough is a fuckin nough. why is it some society's are so pervasive they take parental rights so far away as to make everything an action of the state. why do these states have so much power over people. how do they generate so much belief and so much fear.
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shit,poor bastards,i hope they're not real tattoos
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at least they did it through choice.
silly as they are. i guess some people just
want to make that kind of statement
whatever that kind of statement it.
Me, lets see
Ears done when i was little don't even really remember
tongue when i was like 16. kept it only for a year or 2 then took it out
belly button when i was like 17 still got that one i like it. makes an outfit even more sexy
1 tattoo of a buddhist love/dream symbol where no one can see it 
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even a clit or cock ring is no biggy.
all the things you had done nVeve
are socially acceped. saying that so is almost anything lol
but when a person goes over board and splits there tongue, files down the teeth
or puts a ton of steel in various places over the body it for me begins to look a bit silly.
btw, why put a tat where no one can see it.
i have the word suck tattooed on my knee with an arrow pointing to
john thomas did it myself when i was about 15 lol.
artistic it isn't but at times it served it's purpose as an ice breaker.
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