where is Osama?

[srijantje]

give us your opinion on where you think Osama bin Laden is hanging out or indeed if he's still alive or existed at all in the first place.
Is he a convenient scape goat for the u.s. admin to keep their money spinning home land security schemes going?Do you really think the man can orchestrate attacks around the world from a cave in afghanistan?etc.

[billy]

i think he exists.
as for where he is. i suppose he could be dead but somehow i'm not sure that could have been kept a secret. at a guess i'd say he's still in Afghanistan. i believe that he's not anywhere near as powerful as he was. i think they have new leaders now. he's more of a masthead. i think he needs capturing as soon as possible.

[srijantje]

i overall agree with you and he certainly is not as powerfull as he was when he got supported by the same people who want him dead now.i wouldn't be surprised if he is hanging out with his very powerfull family in saudi arabia

[billy]

could be SJ but i wonder if thats too much of a risk for him or his family to take.

[srijantje]

depends if they get protected by the powers that be for some reason

[billy]

I doubt that bin Laden is in Saudi Arabia. The Saudi government has been fighting Islamic radicals for quite some time.
I suspect Osama is hiding in the tribal areas in north west Pakistan.

even there could be a bit to hot for him.
there are loads of places he could be though.

[srijantje]

velvet is right,that's the most likely place.the area is not that big though,makes me wonder why the most powerfull and rich nation in the world can't track him down there if they wanted to

[mrmod]

I think Osama Bin Laden is dead. There has not been a video of him since something like 2005 only "voice recordings". He was also reported to have a serious liver condition which needed urgent medical aid. I can't remember where I read it, but it seemed very credible.

[srijantje]

alive or dead,he's still being used to make our lives more 'secure'

[billy]

alive or dead,he's still being used to make our lives more 'secure'

that's a very witty quote sj

[srijantje]

believe it or not,i was being serious

[srijantje]

yes

[srijantje]

even that's not true ofcourse,but then ,better free and take a risk than locked up and fade away

[mrmod]

But if something happens the first people we blame is the government. So basically we should be looking at other ways of preventing.

[srijantje]

absolutely,like not so aggressively gobbling up and defending our interests

[Benny2guns]

Bin Laden has no reason to be afraid other than from normal sheeple. He is protected by the elite, a member of the new world order Administration and will be remembered as one of the founding fathers of it. Why would they look for him? He had nothing to do with 9/11.

[srijantje]

might be true,but you still need a scapegoat,the longer you can't find him the better for biz

[Benny2guns]

might be true,but you still need a scapegoat,the longer you can't find him the better for biz

There is no might about it. I have looked at all the evidence that I can find and it is really hard not to see what the truth is,lol, unless it's in your head and irremovable that people would not do it because it's just wrong and the plan seems to be to complicated for you to grasp.
Pretty damned simple fact is that there is no way for any of those buildings to have fallen straight down into themselves without being pulled by an expert team of demolitions people.
Once you realize and understand this fact the rest is just sick and in your face.

[srijantje]

to pull a stunt like that off requires a lot of people,i can't imagine nobody opened his mouth by now.this is the only doubtfull part in my mind

[Benny2guns]

to pull a stunt like that off requires a lot of people,i can't imagine nobody opened his mouth by now.this is the only doubtfull part in my mind

Well if you think in terms of they had to go in and plant the explosives after the buildings were built and populated with workers and so on then yes.
Then your thinking on a plane that most people do. What you forget to remember is that these people do not think in the same terms as we do.
These people plan decades in advance, they have the resources to do so.
If you know and understand that the buildings could not have come down in the manner that they did then figuring out it was a controlled pull is obvious.
From that point knowing that in plane site after they were built would be next to impossible to provide cover for then one has to look at it form another angle.
The explosives were installed during construction in plane site disguised as something else. This was a planed event decades in the making.
There is only one explanation for how they fell, as for how they did it you need to think on the same scale as they live day to day.
Not easy but if you can then the rest will knock your socks off as the fog rolls away.