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Display


I invite knives,
So curious a thing
Must be dissected.
Make a slit and
Slide away skin.
Is the skull
Lumpy
or a finger
Too long?
Cut a flap,
Expose the insides
An x-ray flash.
Compare. Contrast.
Open the mouth,
Position the legs,
Put a finger here,
There.
Protect yourself
With latex.
Separate the heart
With wires,
From the chamber
To the cell,
Exhibit
With your stain
Fix the brain,
An example.
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(10-12-2024, 12:41 AM)libra Wrote:  Display


I invite knives,       consider just 'Inviting knives' and lose the comma 
So curious a thing
Must be dissected.
Make a slit and
Slide away skin.
Is the skull
Lumpy
or a finger
Too long?
Cut a flap,    flap seems a little vague.  How about door or window as a more defined image and carries some connotation that might be interesting.
Expose the insides    same with insides, vague but I don't have a suggestion for this one.
An x-ray flash.
Compare. Contrast.
Open the mouth,
Position the legs,
Put a finger here,
There.
Protect yourself
With latex.
Separate the heart
With wires,     the wires confuses me some
From the chamber
To the cell,
Exhibit
With your stain
Fix the brain,
An example.
Hi Libra
Very seasonally macabre.  Overall, I like it.  It reads well.  I think it could be improved with some more specific imagery as noted above, and I would maybe add the finger references in that comment.  I also think the poem would benefit from moving some of the lines around to have a little more of a progression.  I highlighted some lines that might do better later in the piece.  Finally, there are a couple rhymes that might be better if they are separated by a few lines to give a more subtle rhythm, ie stain and brain at the end.
Ignore as suits you.
Thanks for the read,
Bryn
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#3
Not the most intense criticism but I think the title is a little misleading. When I when I first saw the title "Display" I thought shopping, technology like a monitor. I think the title along the lines of "scalpel" or "exhibit A" might be more fitting.

I'm trying to figure out if this is from the point of a medical student or the brain surgeon. The question marks make me nervous brain surgery might be a hobby haha. Anyways loved the poem. I agree with byrn to tighten up the grammar, and topic
Only one thing is impossible for God: To find any sense in any copyright law on the planet.
--mark twain
Bunx
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(10-12-2024, 12:41 AM)libra Wrote:  Display


I invite knives,
So curious a thing
Must be dissected.
Make a slit and
Slide away skin.
Is the skull
Lumpy
or a finger
Too long?
Cut a flap,
Expose the insides
An x-ray flash.
Compare. Contrast.
Open the mouth,
Position the legs,
Put a finger here,
There.
Protect yourself
With latex.
Separate the heart
With wires,
From the chamber
To the cell,
Exhibit
With your stain
Fix the brain,
An example.
Hello libra,
This is a well written poem, but I do believe the following could enhance its impact, I would suggest refining its imagery, tightening its rhythm, and exploring its emotional undertones more deeply.

Line Refinement for Rhythm - Adjusted certain phrases for a smoother rhythm and clearer flow, such as "Make a slit and / Slide away skin" becoming "Make a slit— / Slide the skin aside."

Intensified Imagery - Words like "smooth" vs. "lumpy" and "tether it with wires" create stronger visual impressions and evoke tactile sensations.

Added Emotional Depth - Slight shifts, such as "Must it not be dissected?" introduce a questioning tone, suggesting philosophical or existential undertones.

Enhanced Structure - Breaking lines into shorter fragments, punctuated for effect, amplifies tension and mirrors the methodical nature of dissection.

Modernized Diction - Rephrased parts like "Expose the insides / An x-ray flash" to tighten the phrasing and evoke a more clinical precision.
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(10-12-2024, 12:41 AM)libra Wrote:  Display


I invite knives,
So curious a thing
Must be dissected.
Make a slit and      <-- It's rarely a good idea to break a line on a conjunction. Poets far above our pay grade can perhaps get away with it, but we should aspire not to, imho.
Slide away skin.
Is the skull
Lumpy
or a finger  <---If you're going to capitalize each line, be consistent.
Too long?
Cut a flap,
Expose the insides
An x-ray flash. <--- An x-ray doesn't need a flap, so the simile falters a bit.
Compare. Contrast.
Open the mouth,
Position the legs,
Put a finger here,
There.
Protect yourself
With latex.
Separate the heart
With wires,
From the chamber
To the cell, <---Just from a strictly practical POV, a wire would have to be incredibly small to separate the heart from a cell. Maybe I'm just being picky
Exhibit
With your stain
Fix the brain,<--- you have two lines in the entire poem that rhyme, which makes them stick out like a very sore thumb, so expect the reader to ponder the reason. If there is no reason other than mere chance, you should change one or the other word. Thinking about stuff that I don’t have to think about because there’s no "there" there makes me not want to read another poem by an author. Just sayin’
An example.

Hello, Libra
I thought perhaps I was reading the script for an episode of Hannibal, which was fun. And even more so by the fact that screenplays notoriously –and deliberately— lack much flair (metaphor or heightened language, etc.) So, it is essentially a list poem, if only a list of somewhat bleak imperatives. It’s difficult to say if N speaks to themselves or to some other person. A clue would be handy  for interpretation. Also we are told to display relatively pedantic pieces of the body. I would have liked to learn a little more interesting anatomy from you than finger – mouth – legs – heart – brain. So we have the splayed specimen before us, human it appears, and we are told (at the end) that it’s merely “an example.”  The verbs, nouns, (and practically non-existent modifiers and/or metaphors) do not inspire love, hate, fear, or loathing. Perhaps that’s the point? Moreover, the banality is droned into the reader’s brain by a lack of pauses  (i.e., strophe breaks) that might have heightened the tension by creating emphasis.

Thank you for the opportunity to read and comment on your poem. I wish you the very best!

Cheers!
-Charles
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#6
Hi all thanks for your feedback.

I suppose the poem is a bit nebulous.

It's supposed to be about queer bodies (fascination/repulsion/dissection/attraction) - maybe I need to change the title to a queer display or something. 

The skull lumpy is a reference to phrenology, a finger too long - reference to old stories about telltale signs. 

The wires are also meant to act as metaphor, with the words chamber and cells having double meanings (bedroom/jail cell).

As is the latex (gloves or condoms). 

Stain and fix brain are also both meant to have double meanings (your stain - it is 'you/someone else' who has stained the body either morally or with a pathologist's stain. Fix the brain i.e. physically fix it with fixatives as per anatomy, or fix it, as in, correct it's function). 

I understand the rhyme might not be to everyone's taste but I like how it reaches that point towards the end. 

Thanks for the advice on refining certain lines - will redraft soon and try to improve.
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#7
Specimen Q: The queer body (update)

I invite knives,
so curious a thing
must be dissected?
Make a slit,
slide away skin.
Is the skull
lumpy
or a finger
too long?
Cut a flap,
expose the insides
an x-ray flash.
Compare. Contrast.
Open the mouth,
position the legs,
put a finger here,
there.
Protect yourself
with latex.
Separate the heart
with wires
from the chamber
to the cell,
exhibit
with your stain
fix the brain,
an example.
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#8
a thing you can do that's very helpful is just edit in your revision to the first post, spoilering previous drafts like so:

(remove the periods) [.pre verse]like so[./pre verse]

like so

also you can edit the title of the thread to better indicate when you've edited.



but back to the poem.

taking this first as the description to a literal dissection, this is pretty....weirdly....done. and this i say as someone who has performed plenty of dissections...

first, it has to be made clear just what kind of dissection this is. is it investigative, like your typical autopsy, or is it instructive, as in the sort that college students do?

assuming this is an autopsy, "knives" should come in much later, considering "skull / lumpy / or a finger / too long" and "x-ray flash". the first thing is to examine the body's outside thoroughly, recording any unusual features of the skin and the general morphology, then to photograph the insides via x-ray and other like instruments. only afterwards does one "slip away [the] skin"...but you do that AFTER you "protect yourself / with latex". 

then, autopsy or otherwise, one typically begins with the viscera -- one cuts from the collarbones to the pelvis -- rather than goes around the head or legs. the "heart" comes much earlier than the "mouth" or the "legs".

the resource i'm looking at does mention looking at tissues under the microscope before cutting open the skull, but i presume the employment of stains is more typically done last, with all necessary samples being collected in a continuous go.

and then, in the end, the body is stitched closed...although that was something the courses i took didn't practice, since we never handled humans.

the instructions, if they're meant to be arranged chronologically, are a mess, and so they would read incompetent or incoherent. if they're meant to read topologically -- we start from the head down, the toes up, etc. -- again, they're a mess. 

if they're meant to read sexually, as i most readily presume they are, they read somewhat....alien. either there's a lot of mixed metaphors going on, starting with the metaphorical "knife" to the heart then going to the literal "position the legs" and "protect yourself", or maybe that more literal interval leading up to "separate the heart / with wires" is a depiction of the sort of interval one sees between a couple that's really going at it, or maybe even the speaker is just that messed up in choosing to open with such a fatal paraphilia. really, if you were trying to go for either of my latter two guesses, then the first guess still applies, since the metaphors all seem kinda jumbled up. for another example, "separate the heart / with wires / from the chamber / to the cell", at its more literal level, links up two orders of magnitude about the physical heart, the visible-with-the-naked-eye chamber and the microscopic cell, and really, cells already separate between the heart's chambers....

a much better go at it would be to make it a coherent description of an autopsy, either chronologically or topologically, or else just make the basis of the piece a literal description of a sexual encounter -- vague emotions, then paraphilias, then paraphilias+touching, then full blown sex, and so on -- peppered, in the more usual manner, with one's clinical metaphors. going with just what's been written:


Protect yourself
with latex.

Is the skull
lumpy---

Open the mouth,
put a finger here,

---or a finger
too long?

there, 
position the legs.

An x-ray flash.
Compare. Contrast.

I invite knives,
so curious a thing.

Make a slit,
slide away skin.

Cut a flap,
expose the insides.

Separate the heart
with wires,

fix the brain,

exhibit
with your stain

an example.


one line in that hypothetical revision i've removed, and one i suggest be removed generally, is "must be dissected?": considering all this talk of knives and viscera, i find it completely unnecessary. similarly, the title is just....too on the nose....highlighting what may be a larger problem with this piece.

as it stands, if this is supposed to be a "queer" piece, i just find it too....sensationalist? melodramatic? without effectively conveying just why it should be so sensational or dramatic, whether a specific moment of heartbreak/bigotry or an overall political/philosophical mood. other than "how interesting" and a general sense of violence, i don't really know where the speaker is coming from, and this i say as a queer person, albeit one who admits they haven't read as much queer poetry as they would like.

still, compare this to basically any poem expressing longing, or maybe to the (sparse, but still effective) lyrics of sophie's oil of every pearl's un-insides. especially the latter (for me, at least---again, my horizons are just not broad enough), where there is a lot of violence, if not in the words then in the sounds by which they are conveyed, and yet i have a greater sense there of just what the violence really entails, of just what kind of queer the speaker is (trans woman whose theory of transness seems to be rooted in the idea of an immaterial self, also 100% a bottom) and just what sort of hostility she experiences in the world (the sort of hostility that forces her to out herself as a trans woman, or at least to go for photoshop alongside plastic surgery).

this may be more effective if you just polished the conceit you already have -- the dissection -- and let the "highness" flow from there. at the very least, i like the chamber/cell double meaning, but again, that only works if both meanings were coherent: if, for instance, you had it so that the chambers -- the bedrooms -- were already separated or even defined by cells -- prison cells -- as they actually, literally are for the heart.
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