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(03-31-2019, 05:14 PM)rowens Wrote: And so it was I entered the broken world
To trace the visionary company of love, its voice
An instant in the wind (I know not whither hurled)
But not for long to hold each desperate choice.
And so it was I entered the broken world
To trace the visionary company of love, its voice
An instant in the wind (I know not whither hurled)
But not for long to hold each desperate choice.
Bloom's first book. And Crane got it from Pater.
And that line of thought is pure Emily Dickinson. That's right out of Dickinson.
That's so funny. That's the exact stanza I was going to re-quote again. Muscle memory...
You want to be let in on a secret? You want to seriously hear the most agonizingly beautiful blues played by an electric guitar in the history of the world? Jimi Hendrix. Rainbow Bridge album. A hodge-podge collection of songs by him. BUT...on that very same album is a live recording from Jimi plays Berkeley circa 1969 of "Hear My Train A Comin". Get stoned and listen to it. I've never heard a better electric guitar in my life. Beyond words sublime...
That was Hendrix's death song...I'm going to listen to it now...goodnight...
You can't hate me more than I hate myself. I win.
"When the spirit of justice eloped on the wings
Of a quivering vibrato's bittersweet sting."
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Now you sound like Shem the Penman.
The Hey Joe solo from Berkeley was a wonderful spur of the moment thing. And The New Rising Sun.
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you're right busker, on everything you speak of. bill didn't invent a language just words. like all the ones tolstoy inserted into his russian dictionary. your right about the language back then evolving. it's stopped evolving now and no new words are ever added to it. language is its very self a dynamic entity and to see it as evolving then but not now seems a little crass. and yes. you're right ; "If a modern day TV writer opened a story like bill did, he wouldn't get very far." and yet so many of his tragedies have been done in the modern idiom... what were thinking. of course you're presuming a tv writer can write as well as bill. which, i'm sure they can they have thousands of works behind their names to count on do't they. NO
of course he wrote different then that we do now so did tolstoy for fuck sake. and yes bill is taught in schools world wide, even china. so is tolstoy but of course not to the same extent most people who've read tolstoy could quote a line from him because he's not fucking memorable enough anna fuckin karinina...please give me a break; war and peace arguably the greatest novel ever wrote, and tolstoy has the temerity to say "not a novel, even less is it a poem, and still less a historical chronicle." no tolstoy felt it was more a work of fucking art  it was a novel. not a novel novel considering his upbringing and royal connections, everyone who owned a palace new about the french invasion of russia. i'll go as far as to to say tolstoy as a literary master was not fit to lick the shit off bill's toecap. as for bill being taught throughout the educational systems of the world; i wonder why the fuck that is? could it be because he's the worst dramatist on the planet? could it be that they all think so highly of tolstoy which has been transalted to the english, they decide unanimously to go with bill. even in moscow i'm presuming. as literary giants go, tolsry probably comes up to the height of bill's dick, as such i find and see his vilification of lear as schlong envy. crits, people like bill shit them out for breakfast, they don't sit broken hearted because can't attain the same heady heights.
anyway. who else do you love beside tolstoy...
i've always though of kipling as a poet/writer of the people.
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I remember that Bukowski poem about Tolstoy and Balzac. What's the name of that poem?
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(03-31-2019, 05:45 PM)rowens Wrote: Now you sound like Shem the Penman.
The Hey Joe solo from Berkeley was a wonderful spur of the moment thing. And The New Rising Sun.
Yeah. I know. And the opening Johny-B-Goode was one of the most joyfully and intensely exhilarating songs live ever. I've seen a lot of great concerts in my life, but I know that amongst a special few rock concerts that I wish I could go back in time and see...Jimi plays Berkeley, the Allman Brothers Live at the Fillmore East, and Lou Reed Rock and Roll Animal live at the Apollo would be near the top of the list...
BUT...I'm talking that version of Hear My Train A Comin...THAT NIGHT! Just wow...
You can't hate me more than I hate myself. I win.
"When the spirit of justice eloped on the wings
Of a quivering vibrato's bittersweet sting."
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When I'm drunk or high and feeling like shit: Lou Reed Take No Prisoners. I was listening to that earlier. Especially Waiting For the Man.
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(03-31-2019, 05:59 PM)rowens Wrote: When I'm drunk or high and feeling like shit: Lou Reed Take No Prisoners. I was listening to that earlier. Especially Waiting For the Man.
Oh Sweet Nothing...lullabies my soul...The Velvet Underground forever...
You can't hate me more than I hate myself. I win.
"When the spirit of justice eloped on the wings
Of a quivering vibrato's bittersweet sting."
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That's Loaded. And off that, I love New Age.
fat blonde actress . . . I'll come running to you . . . baby when you want me . . .
Yeah.
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(03-31-2019, 05:45 PM)billy Wrote: you're right busker, on everything you speak of. bill didn't invent a language just words. like all the ones tolstoy inserted into his russian dictionary. your right about the language back then evolving. it's stopped evolving now and no new words are ever added to it. language is its very self a dynamic entity and to see it as evolving then but not now seems a little crass. and yes. you're right ; "If a modern day TV writer opened a story like bill did, he wouldn't get very far." and yet so many of his tragedies have been done in the modern idiom... what were thinking. of course you're presuming a tv writer can write as well as bill. which, i'm sure they can they have thousands of works behind their names to count on do't they. NO
of course he wrote different then that we do now so did tolstoy for fuck sake. and yes bill is taught in schools world wide, even china. so is tolstoy but of course not to the same extent most people who've read tolstoy could quote a line from him because he's not fucking memorable enough anna fuckin karinina...please give me a break; war and peace arguably the greatest novel ever wrote, and tolstoy has the temerity to say "not a novel, even less is it a poem, and still less a historical chronicle." no tolstoy felt it was more a work of fucking art it was a novel. not a novel novel considering his upbringing and royal connections, everyone who owned a palace new about the french invasion of russia. i'll go as far as to to say tolstoy as a literary master was not fit to lick the shit off bill's toecap. as for bill being taught throughout the educational systems of the world; i wonder why the fuck that is? could it be because he's the worst dramatist on the planet? could it be that they all think so highly of tolstoy which has been transalted to the english, they decide unanimously to go with bill. even in moscow i'm presuming. as literary giants go, tolsry probably comes up to the height of bill's dick, as such i find and see his vilification of lear as schlong envy. crits, people like bill shit them out for breakfast, they don't sit broken hearted because can't attain the same heady heights.
anyway. who else do you love beside tolstoy...
i've always though of kipling as a poet/writer of the people.
I think it was EM Forster in his Aspects of the Novel who said that the greatness of English literature lies in its poetry, including the blank verse of Shakespeare. I concur.
It is strange, because English for the most parts has words ending in consonants, which isn't particularly poetic, but English poetry is in a different league than the poetry of other languages I am familiar with.
Ergo, a number of English poets would be amongst my favourites, with TS Eliot perhaps being at the top.
I never understood Kipling's popularity. Now some bigots, such as Wagner, are so great as to transcend their bigotry, but Kipling was a bigot and a hack, a writer of utter tripe (read 'The Phantom Rickshaw and other stories').
I never quite got the hang of Tolstoy, much preferring Dostoevsky.
None of them hold a candle to Agatha Christie, of course...
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There's a girl I used to know. I found a video she posted of her stripping to Oh Sweet Nothin.
How I found the video is my own business.
But it's her. It's her apartment. Her body. I know.
I'm actually going to watch that video right now, and think about it. I mean . . . her.
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(03-31-2019, 06:05 PM)busker Wrote: None of them hold a candle to Agatha Christie, of course...
don't get me started
i loved Eliot's Old Possum's Book of Practical Cats a,d while not as acclaimed as some of his works is my favourite. Bukowski's "The History Of One Tough Motherfucker" in some ways reminds me of eliot's cats though their not as gutteral by far.
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and this holds relevance to which famous poet?
get a grip on yourself man...no don't do it here. not unless you say something of a famous poet. 
(03-31-2019, 06:06 PM)rowens Wrote: There's a girl I used to know. I found a video she posted of her stripping to Oh Sweet Nothin.
How I found the video is my own business.
But it's her. It's her apartment. Her body. I know.
I'm actually going to watch that video right now, and think about it. I mean . . . her.
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I was following the context of all the comments. And that's where it led. But I had the decency not to post the video. I bet there are some people who'd rather look at that than another post about famous poets. What do you think I've been looking at the last few hours? And the video's only five minutes long.
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