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what poem?
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Khloé Kardashian writes a poem
#1
 
Khloé Kardashian writes a poem
 
Like time suspended,
            a wound unmended—
            you and I.
 
We had no ending,
            no said good-bye.
 
For all my life,
            I’ll wonder why.
How long after picking up the brush, the first masterpiece?

The goal is not to obfuscate that which is clear, but make clear that which isn't.
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#2
(11-09-2014, 12:02 PM)Erthona Wrote:   
Khloé Kardashian writes a poem
 
Like time suspended,
            a wound unmended—
            you and I.
 
We had no ending,
            no said good-bye.
 
For all my life,
            I’ll wonder why.
That's actually a cool idea for a frame, but I don't know if you could ever get past the content.
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#3
Your poll didn't contain a "meh" option. I want that one please.
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#4
Ok wait....did you write this as Kloe, or did she write it, because that would most certainly change my poll answer. It's all in the parody-dise.

the "no said" goodbye makes me giggle.
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#5
No, I had nothing to do with this piece of adolescent excrement, except to post it here so that everyone could marvel at how a talentless famous for being famous slut gets her worthless "poem" plastered all over the internet. I'm sure the "no said" will be "trending" shortly.

Sorry, I don't know how to add the "meh" option now. Maybe Billy will if you give him a quicky, or ella. eh? look at that. My on line dictionary doesn't think "quicky" is a real word. Or "meh" for that matter.

Dale
How long after picking up the brush, the first masterpiece?

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#6
This is a poem by Lang Leav called "Closure". Her poems mostly appeal to teenage girls who have little grasp on writing and minor heart infractions. Not only can Khloe not write poetry, she can't even choose a good poem.  Hysterical
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#7
wow does it have the no said in it, or was that a khloe ad in?
quicky is spelt quickie you ijit.
bena the phallicios

PS I voted for meh, since I asked for the option....

BUT what poem, or suck bad would have been just as clickable.
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#8
I see. Although it did not specifically state she had written it, it certainly was not attributed to "Lang Leav" (whoever that made up name belongs to). However as the above poll suggest, this is not a good poem, and as you say, KK (she is not worth the letters to spell the whole thing out) cannot even pick a good poem.

Melba Toast,

Where I'm from we always use the shortest spelling (due to short term memory loss), and since when is "phallicios" a word you provoking hoyden*!

dale

*word of the day word
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#9
Awww comon Dale, you know I'm a hoyden. Or at least pretend to be on the internet.
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#10
Lang Leav is really, really popular.

http://langleav.com/About

Simplistic poems tend to be, since most readers who are not into poetry can easily understand them.
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#11
(11-10-2014, 11:46 PM)brandontoh Wrote:  Lang Leav is really, really popular.

http://langleav.com/About

Simplistic poems tend to be, since most readers who are not into poetry can easily understand them.



Don't you mean Hallmark cards???
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#12
We're beyond superficial and instant gratification, we've moved into skin-stick* gratification.

*As though by a needle, no effort or thought to the lowest common denominator, only rephrasing what is already known, so as not to introduce any form of learning. Just a distortion of more of the same, kind of like the picture below. Also made by injection!

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They both make me a bit queasy.
How long after picking up the brush, the first masterpiece?

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#13
(11-09-2014, 12:02 PM)Erthona Wrote:   
Khloé Kardashian writes a poem
 
Like time suspended,
            a wound unmended—
            you and I.
 
We had no ending,
            no said good-bye.
 
For all my life,
            I’ll wonder why.

I will have to play devil's advocate on this one.  aside from the games with the white space which i have never cared for and the subject matter which is a little tired the skill with verse would match pretty much anyone on this board.   The meter is spot on.  There are no true cliches.  I heard someone balk about "said goodbye" but if we can have "unsaid goodbye" we can certainly have a "said goodbye" and the concept, while new, fits perfectly to the content - a relationship that ended without closure.  The third strophe is the weakest and it is definitely suggestive of more pubescent writing but  you can certainly find worse on this board.
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#14
Milo,

I disagree (I am assuming you meant to be disagreed with, so I am doing so). Sure, you can find worse on the site in terms of form ( a lot of people show up here and don't have a clue what formal poetry is), however a two foot meter over seven lines is hardly brilliant and should be within the grasp of even the novice writer to set out by ear alone without any real knowledge of meter. Although probably more clean than a neophyte, there are still irregularities in the iambic as well as the rhyme, unless you want to say they were purposefully done. I do not know enough about the writer to know whether or not he/she intended the half feet, or to start with couplets, then to change to alternate line rhyme. I suggest a bit of a happy accident rather fully intentional, so some points for that, but simple saying the same thing differently does not make the meaning any less cliche. I have seen many new poets write similar things, in fact you can browse over at All poets.com and find a veritable plethora of similar poems.Just because the phrases have been reworked to not sound cliche, it does not save the overall poem from being a cliche.

Certainly one can have a "no said goodbye", just as one can say "kill meat, eat meat", but generally if we are not doing dialogue for a caveman or a 4 y/o, we would not speak/write that way for fear of being laughed at by mean people. I don't know where you reference the "unsaid goodbyes", but just as the "no said goodbyes" it would need the appropriate articles and pronouns, etc, to make it a legitimate phrase (besides we have a perfectly good phrase for that, "didn't say". Of course that would mess of the iambic, which only shows the lack of skill that it forces the writer to such poor phrasing, something I think we would generally jump on here, as that is what we have done in the past...including you, quite voraciously if I recall Smile

By the by, I like your new Avatar. I liked you last one also, but I never could decide if it was Italian, French, or Beat.

dale
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#15
(11-11-2014, 06:35 AM)Erthona Wrote:  Milo,

I disagree (I am assuming you meant to be disagreed with, so I am doing so). Sure, you can find worse on the site in terms of form ( a lot of people show up here and don't have a clue what formal poetry is), however a two foot meter over seven lines is hardly brilliant and should be within the grasp of even the novice writer to set out by ear alone without any real knowledge of meter. Although probably more clean than a neophyte, there are still irregularities in the iambic as well as the rhyme, unless you want to say they were purposefully done. I do not know enough about the writer to know whether or not he/she intended the half feet, or to start with couplets, then to change to alternate line rhyme. I suggest a bit of a happy accident rather fully intentional, so some points for that, but simple saying the same thing differently does not make the meaning any less cliche. I have seen many new poets write similar things, in fact you can browse over at All poets.com and find a veritable plethora of similar poems.Just because the phrases have been reworked to not sound cliche, it does not save the overall poem from being a cliche.

The skill with sonics and words suggest differently.  Meter does not always have to be regular to be metrically nice.  i am more familiar with the author than you  (probably) and this is a fair representation of her work.  The words are always simple as are the concepts but the sonics are skillful as is the meter. There are no new concepts in poetry (not really) and there is nothing terribly original here or anything you would bother reading several times or remembering but the skill with writing itself is good enough.

Quote:Certainly one can have a "no said goodbye", just as one can say "kill meat, eat meat", but generally if we are not doing dialogue for a caveman or a 4 y/o, we would not speak/write that way for fear of being laughed at by mean people. I don't know where you reference the "unsaid goodbyes",  but just as the "no said goodbyes" it would need the appropriate articles and pronouns, etc, to make it a legitimate phrase (besides we have a perfectly good phrase for that, "didn't say". Of course that would mess of the iambic, which only shows the lack of skill that it forces the writer to such poor phrasing, something I think we would generally 

the first time I read it I thought as you do she meant "didn't say goodbye" but that is not the case here.  "said" is an adjective not a verb in this sentence and "no" is the article.  It is a continuation of the list:

"we had no ending, no 'said' goodbyes" as opposed to "we had endings and unsaid goodbyes" (punctuation added)

so the phrase is grammatically sound and actually kind of clever under analysis as it says far more than "we didn't say goodbye" - there is the implication that goodbyes did happen, there were merely never formalized.

Quote:jump on here, as that is what we have done in the past...including you, quite voraciously if I recall Smile

By the by, I like your new Avatar. I liked you last one also, but I never could decide if it was Italian, French, or Beat.

dale

I can't remember which avatar was last but I am glad you like the new one.
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#16
I have to agree with Milo, this isn't so bad. I haven't a clue who either of these poets are (I did quickly google Lang Leav [as it was mentioned it was her poem and not the other fellow's] and her little books look very well done and obviously not for the likes of us jaded old fuckers. It is innocent. It speaks to a certain demographic (yeah, I said demographic, get over it). And if this inspires a young teenage girl or boy to read more poetry, then what's the harm. I really don't think it deserves such vitriolic attention. The poem isn't that good, it isn't that bad, and from what I saw about Leav, i think a lot of the emphasis is on the craft of making books and drawing.

anyway, fuck that... we should be voting on the girl with the amazing arse in the photo, and get all sexist and mucky-like (:
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#17
OK Milo, I'll concede. Your explanation of the "no said" is sound, and must be intentional, so the girl must have something going, unfortunately it was put up by KK, which of course taints it by way of association. There is no doubt that you know here better than I, and I plan to keep it that way Smile As it does seem she has some talent, I hope she progresses beyond this in the near future. I suspect she will. Talent does not countenance stagnation.

Dale
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#18
Well, I do have a personal interest in her but, she is probably not the next Byron. Her poems are like Twinkies and she churns them out by the dozen to be devoured by young girls and almost immediately forgotten. They lack the complexity I prefer in poetry myself. That being said, she is young and talented and already probably wrote more poems than I did so who knows.
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#19
Her poems are like pop songs. I've read her stuff, and to be honest they all read the same. While there are occasional gems, the content just bore me.
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#20
Ah yes, a romance Novel in seven lines or fewer. Very commercial. I did see her picture, she is Japanese, and as we know all Japanese are highly intelligent. Et tu brute.

dale
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