So, I Dream of Raining Fucks
#1
So, I Dream of Raining Fucks

Dream
I dream of androgynous fragmented waters
Liquid bodies and vapoured thoughts
touching a cantankerous stratopshere
with a hue of softer horizons
Rain
Rain jagged teeth on me
itched like lichen on a stump
with epicurean subtext
And I'm liking the idea
of red commie sunsets
splashing equality dew
like dreams of yesterday
carried by handsome men in black masks
Perfumed by the scent of amphetamine green
on naked morning skin,
we can swallow in whole
the worth of our voucher-redeemed suffering
Fuck
Fuck every hole they left in you
Burning monks and blazing dharma
while scamps of the mind race
along the trains with pockets full of rent-free love
Naked, the young are dreaming sweaty in their beds
with souls bursting fifty REM per second
and run-on thought patterns
So what if we can't fly; we can float
we float like corpses with
water bloat gasping for life
We float like our aspiring thoughts
and rising action dreams
but these lines are getting longer
and the pauses between selves
seem to reveal positive correlations
inescapable as they are exhausting
so
so maybe, y'know, we could just head to the office and grab some coffee on the way


This poem is hopefully a wide departure from my last (My Wheelchair). I definitely didn't try as hard for structure, so let me know if it turned out any better or worse for the measure.
If I could say only one thing before I die, it'd probably be,
"Please don't kill me"
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#2
Do you mean Rain-jagged teeth? Once I get that cleared up, I might can look more into it.
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#3
Nope, I meant rain as in the verb
If I could say only one thing before I die, it'd probably be,
"Please don't kill me"
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#4
How do you mean itched? That's the only part I stopped to wonder about. Those two lines
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#5
Well there's an idiom for causing the teeth to itch, meaning a great discomfort and overwhelming awkwardness. It's the equivalent of making your skin crawl, and I was trying to play off it
If I could say only one thing before I die, it'd probably be,
"Please don't kill me"
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#6
i'm not sure what to think. i definitely like but i'm not sure why.
one suggestion would be to separate each section.
Dream:

i dream....
..................

Rain:

Rain, jagged....
............. etc.
i stopped giving feedback below because i frankly got lost in it (in good way) most or a lot of it didn't work but the weird thing is, it all made sense in a psychedelic sort of way it's like train of thought meets lobsang rampa and the pusher man.. some great images. some not so great simile.
i enjoyed the read and wish i could have been more help. i think a to much of this resonates with me for me to give proper feedback.
thanks for the read

(10-23-2013, 07:19 AM)SirBrendan Wrote:  So, I Dream of Raining Fucks

Dream
I dream of androgynous fragmented waters a period, [b]you used punctuation elsewhere so make it constant

Liquid bodies and vapoured thoughts
touching a cantankerous stratopshere
with a hue of softer horizons
Rain
Rain jagged teeth on me
itched like lichen on a stump the simile sounds good but begs the question; does lichen itch stumps? also not sure the transition from the line above to this works well enough.
with epicurean subtext what has the above to do with epicurean?
And I'm liking the idea
of red commie sunsets good image
splashing equality dew the image carried on with the metaphore
like dreams of yesterday
carried by handsome men in black masks
Perfumed by the scent of amphetamine green
on naked morning skin,
we can swallow in whole
the worth of our voucher-redeemed suffering
Fuck
Fuck every hole they left in you
Burning monks and blazing dharma
while scamps of the mind race
along the trains with pockets full of rent-free love
Naked, the young are dreaming sweaty in their beds
with souls bursting fifty REM per second
and run-on thought patterns
So what if we can't fly; we can float
we float like corpses with
water bloat gasping for life
We float like our aspiring thoughts
and rising action dreams
but these lines are getting longer
and the pauses between selves
seem to reveal positive correlations
inescapable as they are exhausting
so
so maybe, y'know, we could just head to the office and grab some coffee on the way[/b]

This poem is hopefully a wide departure from my last (My Wheelchair). I definitely didn't try as hard for structure, so let me know if it turned out any better or worse for the measure.
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(10-23-2013, 07:19 AM)SirBrendan Wrote:  So, I Dream of Raining Fucks

Dream
I dream of androgynous fragmented waters>Awkward
Liquid bodies and vapoured thoughts >
touching a cantankerous stratopshere >
with a hue of softer horizons >
Rain
Rain jagged teeth on me>
itched like lichen on a stump>
with epicurean subtext>I like this part, expand on epicurean subtext
And I'm liking the idea>
of red commie sunsets>
splashing equality dew>
like dreams of yesterday
carried by handsome men in black masks>
Perfumed by the scent of amphetamine green>
on naked morning skin,>
we can swallow in whole>
the worth of our voucher-redeemed suffering>these lines seem messy to me
Fuck
Fuck every hole they left in you>yes, transition into next line better
Burning monks and blazing dharma
while scamps of the mind race
along the trains with pockets full of rent-free love
Naked, the young are dreaming sweaty in their beds>favorite line
with souls bursting fifty REM per second>bursting threw off the vibe
and run-on thought patterns
So what if we can't fly; we can float
we float like corpses with
water bloat gasping for life
We float like our aspiring thoughts
and rising action dreams
but these lines are getting longer >
and the pauses between selves>I get this
seem to reveal positive correlations>
inescapable as they are exhausting>
so
so maybe, y'know, we could just head to the office and grab some coffee on the way


This poem is hopefully a wide departure from my last (My Wheelchair). I definitely didn't try as hard for structure, so let me know if it turned out any better or worse for the measure.

This poem is awkward like a good Dali painting.
The last line was weird for me.
Vivid.
I'd like to see more.
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#8
(10-25-2013, 07:22 AM)Tempest Wrote:  
(10-23-2013, 07:19 AM)SirBrendan Wrote:  So, I Dream of Raining Fucks

Dream
I dream of androgynous fragmented waters>Awkward
Liquid bodies and vapoured thoughts >
touching a cantankerous stratopshere >
with a hue of softer horizons >
Rain
Rain jagged teeth on me>
itched like lichen on a stump>
with epicurean subtext>I like this part, expand on epicurean subtext
And I'm liking the idea>
of red commie sunsets>
splashing equality dew>
like dreams of yesterday
carried by handsome men in black masks>
Perfumed by the scent of amphetamine green>
on naked morning skin,>
we can swallow in whole>
the worth of our voucher-redeemed suffering>these lines seem messy to me
Fuck
Fuck every hole they left in you>yes, transition into next line better
Burning monks and blazing dharma
while scamps of the mind race
along the trains with pockets full of rent-free love
Naked, the young are dreaming sweaty in their beds>favorite line
with souls bursting fifty REM per second>bursting threw off the vibe
and run-on thought patterns
So what if we can't fly; we can float
we float like corpses with
water bloat gasping for life
We float like our aspiring thoughts
and rising action dreams
but these lines are getting longer >
and the pauses between selves>I get this
seem to reveal positive correlations>
inescapable as they are exhausting>
so
so maybe, y'know, we could just head to the office and grab some coffee on the way


This poem is hopefully a wide departure from my last (My Wheelchair). I definitely didn't try as hard for structure, so let me know if it turned out any better or worse for the measure.

This poem is awkward like a good Dali painting.
The last line was weird for me.
Vivid.
I'd like to see more.
Whoaaaa! Hold up there! Someone has to rein this runaway stallion in!
This piece is jumping hurdles, fences and brooks...but the bloody jockey fell of at the starter's pistol.
Androgynus?Cantankerous? Vapoured?
Stratopsphere? We haven't gone the first furlong and I'm feeling the handicap! Wordy or what?
Sorry, but the King is naked. OK. You are regurgitating a dictionary...that is purgative for you but purgatory for this crit. It is to no purpose asking what the hell this is about, it is about everything...and ipso facto? No. I cannot say it.
TAKE STOCK! You have gone off on a diatribe of dissent and weakened all that you are trying to say by trying to say everything. It even has a gratuitous, purposeless fuck in it...for fuck's sake!Smile
Honest crit? This is rubbish but it CAN be recycled. First of all, seperate the plastic from the paper, the glass from the garbage, the metal from mountain of dross that you have dumped here. What is the point, the theme, the central metaphor, the pivot, the axis, the SOUL of the piece?
Make poetry. You have the words, the concept( I read your last piece so you cannot disagree) all you need is SIMPLICITY. (Unlike this crit. See what I mean?)
Best
tectak


(10-23-2013, 09:25 AM)billy Wrote:  i'm not sure what to think. i definitely like but i'm not sure why.
one suggestion would be to separate each section.
Dream:

i dream....
..................

Rain:

Rain, jagged....
............. etc.
i stopped giving feedback below because i frankly got lost in it (in good way) most or a lot of it didn't work but the weird thing is, it all made sense in a psychedelic sort of way it's like train of thought meets lobsang rampa and the pusher man.. some great images. some not so great simile.
i enjoyed the read and wish i could have been more help. i think a to much of this resonates with me for me to give proper feedback.
thanks for the read

(10-23-2013, 07:19 AM)SirBrendan Wrote:  So, I Dream of Raining Fucks

Dream
I dream of androgynous fragmented waters a period, [b]you used punctuation elsewhere so make it constant

Liquid bodies and vapoured thoughts
touching a cantankerous stratopshere
with a hue of softer horizons
Rain
Rain jagged teeth on me
itched like lichen on a stump the simile sounds good but begs the question; does lichen itch stumps? also not sure the transition from the line above to this works well enough.
with epicurean subtext what has the above to do with epicurean?
And I'm liking the idea
of red commie sunsets good image
splashing equality dew the image carried on with the metaphore
like dreams of yesterday
carried by handsome men in black masks
Perfumed by the scent of amphetamine green
on naked morning skin,
we can swallow in whole
the worth of our voucher-redeemed suffering
Fuck
Fuck every hole they left in you
Burning monks and blazing dharma
while scamps of the mind race
along the trains with pockets full of rent-free love
Naked, the young are dreaming sweaty in their beds
with souls bursting fifty REM per second
and run-on thought patterns
So what if we can't fly; we can float
we float like corpses with
water bloat gasping for life
We float like our aspiring thoughts
and rising action dreams
but these lines are getting longer
and the pauses between selves
seem to reveal positive correlations
inescapable as they are exhausting
so
so maybe, y'know, we could just head to
the office and grab some coffee on the way[/b]

This poem is hopefully a wide departure from my last (My Wheelchair). I definitely didn't try as hard for structure, so let me know if it turned out any better or worse for the measure.
Lobsang Rampa only worked Tuesdays,
the rest of the week was gold-cord muse days.
He served kids ice-cream from his van,
Tuesday Rampa, known as Lobsang.
tectak
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#9
Wow, thanks a lot for the feedback. To be honest, this poem was meant to be messy to try and differ from the last, so it looks like I did that. Really I was just trying to express the disconnect between who I was when I was young, and who I am now as an older, married man.

Speaking of which Tetak, my wife gave me the exact same criticism about the opening lines. She said I always start my poems way too wordy, and that it caused the rest of the poem's strengths to be weaker for it. She gave it a 6/10, but that's because she's a dick:p

She also didn't like that I put fuck in, because she felt it was out of place. Seems she was right.

I'll see if I can try to salvage the piece and make it a little stronger, but this one was more catharsis than anything. I really, really liked writing it just because it caught my adolescence quite a bit. I know it's not very good, but it's very good for me. I'm working on another, which has so far taken me half a dozen hours (whereas this one took me half a dozen minutes) so hopefully I'll improve. Thanks again for the feedback and I'm just glad I can get feelings in.
If I could say only one thing before I die, it'd probably be,
"Please don't kill me"
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(10-25-2013, 10:50 AM)SirBrendan Wrote:  Wow, thanks a lot for the feedback. To be honest, this poem was meant to be messy to try and differ from the last, so it looks like I did that. Really I was just trying to express the disconnect between who I was when I was young, and who I am now as an older, married man.

Speaking of which Tetak, my wife gave me the exact same criticism about the opening lines. She said I always start my poems way too wordy, and that it caused the rest of the poem's strengths to be weaker for it. She gave it a 6/10, but that's because she's a dick:p

She also didn't like that I put fuck in, because she felt it was out of place. Seems she was right.

I'll see if I can try to salvage the piece and make it a little stronger, but this one was more catharsis than anything. I really, really liked writing it just because it caught my adolescence quite a bit. I know it's not very good, but it's very good for me. I'm working on another, which has so far taken me half a dozen hours (whereas this one took me half a dozen minutes) so hopefully I'll improve. Thanks again for the feedback and I'm just glad I can get feelings in.
Good egg.
Don't habitually ditch stuff after crit. Take the crit which is useful to YOU and use it to work the poem. Ditch crit which is an anathema to you....including mine. Most crit is generic, or should be. Sometimes the stuff we write is so anal that just reading a month later is cringeworthy...when someone else reads your work, that's where they are.
Best,
tectak
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It's a complete mess, I suggest you strip it apart. Remove the helper words, the contrived use of words and structure it better. I reckon if you tighten it up, you'll find it much easier to write. Have a definite, simple idea to write on. The more shit you throw in, the more complex it becomes, you cannot have complexity without a decent structure and effective punctuation. You need to keep it simple. If you're going to put forward an idea, a image for the reader, CONCLUDE IT. Don't just move onto another idea, and leave the other in the dark. It's another factor to the contrivity you have here. Some ideas you have here such as 'fragmented waters' are confusing, explain how the water is fragmented, how. Make sense of it all. It adds more to the confusion and if you were to EXPAND on that idea, highlighting it in your poem with some entertaining metaphors and interesting personification you'd have something half decent.

Good on you for putting this out there, thanks for the read.
You'll find out who I am within the imagery, it pleads 'fuck the metaphors and scream'
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