12-22-2011, 10:05 AM
Leanne,
"I agree with Ray, there's no evidence to suggest that either the poem or further interpretation have held the second clause to be equal to the first. That would be repetitive." Actually it could be explanatory, and as it is a dependant clause, that would generally be my assumption.
"and"
That is the problem with leaving words out. It could be "and" or it could be "it is", and if it is not "attached" to restlessness, then to what does it refer? Are you also saying that "the tangled scent of red" is not a metaphor? Also, if it is "and" then it reads as "I know... the tangled scent of red." Thus it reads as though it is referring to a specific thing, like "I know Leanne". Does it make sense to you that I write a sentence saying, "I know your restlessness, and Leanne"? Wouldn't the natural assumption be to find a correlation between restlessness and Leanne, rather than to assume this is a list of unrelated things that I know?
List of things I know:
1. Your restlessness
2. The tangled scent of red
3. A whiter shade of pale
4. Raspberry gobsmootchers
5. Kittens with noses...
6. Comma faults
Still, that we are even having this discussion goes back to the idea of clarity, and why unintended ambiguity is not something one should strive for.
Dale
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ray,
My first ex-mother-in-law was German, although she was from Cologne and everybody thought she was French. I sang the role of "Papageno" in German, she coached me in pronunciation. Evidently she did a good job, as for years after that when I spoke what little German I knew people would always comment on what good pronunciation I had. I suppose I should have, as we spent around 10 hours just learning how to say "ich" properly! She was a young girl during the war, and at the end, as everything was in chaos, she become attached to the fifth panzer division as they were fleeing the allies, and she was there when the Germans surrendered to the allies. Of course like most German's, she was not really aware of what was going on, and as was portrayed so well in the "Sound of Music", to show any resistance was to take your life in your hands. Still, she was as nationalistically prideful as about anyone I have ever met, it was quite an interesting dichotomy.
Dale
"I agree with Ray, there's no evidence to suggest that either the poem or further interpretation have held the second clause to be equal to the first. That would be repetitive." Actually it could be explanatory, and as it is a dependant clause, that would generally be my assumption.
"and"
That is the problem with leaving words out. It could be "and" or it could be "it is", and if it is not "attached" to restlessness, then to what does it refer? Are you also saying that "the tangled scent of red" is not a metaphor? Also, if it is "and" then it reads as "I know... the tangled scent of red." Thus it reads as though it is referring to a specific thing, like "I know Leanne". Does it make sense to you that I write a sentence saying, "I know your restlessness, and Leanne"? Wouldn't the natural assumption be to find a correlation between restlessness and Leanne, rather than to assume this is a list of unrelated things that I know?
List of things I know:
1. Your restlessness
2. The tangled scent of red
3. A whiter shade of pale
4. Raspberry gobsmootchers
5. Kittens with noses...
6. Comma faults
Still, that we are even having this discussion goes back to the idea of clarity, and why unintended ambiguity is not something one should strive for.
Dale
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ray,
My first ex-mother-in-law was German, although she was from Cologne and everybody thought she was French. I sang the role of "Papageno" in German, she coached me in pronunciation. Evidently she did a good job, as for years after that when I spoke what little German I knew people would always comment on what good pronunciation I had. I suppose I should have, as we spent around 10 hours just learning how to say "ich" properly! She was a young girl during the war, and at the end, as everything was in chaos, she become attached to the fifth panzer division as they were fleeing the allies, and she was there when the Germans surrendered to the allies. Of course like most German's, she was not really aware of what was going on, and as was portrayed so well in the "Sound of Music", to show any resistance was to take your life in your hands. Still, she was as nationalistically prideful as about anyone I have ever met, it was quite an interesting dichotomy.
Dale
How long after picking up the brush, the first masterpiece?
The goal is not to obfuscate that which is clear, but make clear that which isn't.
The goal is not to obfuscate that which is clear, but make clear that which isn't.