07-01-2021, 06:15 AM
Knot,
"seems to lack what I would, amateurishly, describe as the necessary narcissism."
Sadist, while self-centered are not narcissistic.
"And wouldn't he want, or indeed expect, to be thanked, for
his authority to be acknowledged?"
He might, except the line is about her. Not being thanked is just another way of treating her as an object, thus another way of humiliating her. Ultimately all metaphors are false, so there is not always going to be a direct one to one correlation. Characterizing "China" as the slave in a Sadomasochistic relationship is just a way to examine that relationship without the emotional triggers.
"Still troubled by 'I worship her' and 'sensually'."
"sensually serviceable" is there primarily for the alliteration, although I believe it is still an accurate description. I think the "China" can be sensual. I would refer you to definition #3 of sensual:
"arousing or exciting the senses or appetites."
In terms of the "worship," he counters this by saying, "I do not put her on a pedestal." What I meant by that was that he does not really worship her, as say in the mode of the "Courtly Love Tradition," but rather he worships the relationship that brings him pleasure. Thus, he does not put her on a pedestal. To paraphrase the Bard, "he comes not to praise her, but to humiliate her.
Thanks for the good conversation, always a pleasure,
best,
dale
"seems to lack what I would, amateurishly, describe as the necessary narcissism."
Sadist, while self-centered are not narcissistic.
"And wouldn't he want, or indeed expect, to be thanked, for
his authority to be acknowledged?"
He might, except the line is about her. Not being thanked is just another way of treating her as an object, thus another way of humiliating her. Ultimately all metaphors are false, so there is not always going to be a direct one to one correlation. Characterizing "China" as the slave in a Sadomasochistic relationship is just a way to examine that relationship without the emotional triggers.
"Still troubled by 'I worship her' and 'sensually'."
"sensually serviceable" is there primarily for the alliteration, although I believe it is still an accurate description. I think the "China" can be sensual. I would refer you to definition #3 of sensual:
"arousing or exciting the senses or appetites."
In terms of the "worship," he counters this by saying, "I do not put her on a pedestal." What I meant by that was that he does not really worship her, as say in the mode of the "Courtly Love Tradition," but rather he worships the relationship that brings him pleasure. Thus, he does not put her on a pedestal. To paraphrase the Bard, "he comes not to praise her, but to humiliate her.
Thanks for the good conversation, always a pleasure,
best,
dale
How long after picking up the brush, the first masterpiece?
The goal is not to obfuscate that which is clear, but make clear that which isn't.
The goal is not to obfuscate that which is clear, but make clear that which isn't.