Shitty Villanelle
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3. A Villanelle has a fixed meter. Today iambic pentameter is the most popular but there was a time iambic tetrameter was.

pick a meter and stay with it.

one of the big problems for me is that you use no punctuation yet cap every line making me use a longer pause than i need to on certain lines.
it's not a bad effort but i think milo is correct when he advises you to try these things out in poetry practice first. get the meter as right as you can and then post them in here. what pisses me off a little is that you yourself call it shitty. unless it's about shit why should people bother giving it feedback if the poet thinks it that bad?

anyway, the shitty part aside, it isn't that bad. i do like the two main refrains, if you didn't use caps on every line you could play with the refrains a bit. ie;

The heads of bucks that hounds have torn apart,
a bugle plays a hunter’s tune that’s cruel.

the next use of the refrain could be

Whose unquenched hunger gnaws him apart.
A bugle plays, a hunter’s tune that’s cruel.

thanks for the read




(07-04-2013, 06:19 AM)Brownlie Wrote:  This thing has got some problems but I worked pretty damn hard at it if anyone can help me salvage it or give me some pointers on how to improve my writing I would be grateful. I post it in this section, because most people don't even know what a villanelle is. I think the refrain may be the problem here.

A bugle plays a hunter’s tune that’s cruel
It rouses hunting dogs that growl at Harts
In conquest men attempt to hunt and rule

Above the mantle antlers hang as ghouls
The heads of bucks that hounds have torn apart
A bugle plays a hunter’s tune that’s cruel

The sound of Martial trumpets signals the drool meter problem, a suggestion would be [cause] instead of [signals]
From trained beasts that earn purple hearts meter problem, missing a foot
In conquest men attempt to hunt and rule

He barks at heaven cursing limits. A fool meter problems a suggestion would be to lose[limits] and relace it with [what] use the correct puntuation if taking suggestion to hart oops heart.
Whose unquenched hunger gnaws him apart. meter problem, end rhyme problem, (it's already been used and is not a refrain ) no suggestion except rewrite the line
A bugle plays a hunter’s tune that’s cruel

Actaeon turned stag when by the pool meter problem, missing half a foot.
Where naked beauty proved not a tart meter problem and it reads awkwardly rewrite the end part of line adding half a foot
In conquest men attempt to hunt and rule

We men do covet Jewels, shining hearts meter problem (missing half a foot) why the use of archaic language [do covet]
That glint a light that smarts the hunting fool
A bugle plays a hunter’s tune that’s cruel
In conquest men attempt to hunt and rule
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Messages In This Thread
Shitty Villanelle - by Brownlie - 07-04-2013, 06:19 AM
RE: Shitty Villanelle - by milo - 07-04-2013, 07:05 AM
RE: Shitty Villanelle - by Brownlie - 07-04-2013, 07:17 AM
RE: Shitty Villanelle - by billy - 07-04-2013, 09:40 AM
RE: Shitty Villanelle - by Brownlie - 07-04-2013, 10:06 PM
RE: Shitty Villanelle - by tectak - 07-05-2013, 12:49 AM
RE: Shitty Villanelle - by Vistaldust - 07-05-2013, 01:18 AM
RE: Shitty Villanelle - by Brownlie - 07-05-2013, 03:00 AM
RE: Shitty Villanelle - by milo - 07-05-2013, 04:07 AM
RE: Shitty Villanelle - by Vistaldust - 07-05-2013, 05:06 AM
RE: Shitty Villanelle - by Heartafire - 07-05-2013, 04:29 AM
RE: Shitty Villanelle - by Brownlie - 07-05-2013, 06:03 AM



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