(03-09-2010, 05:36 PM)Benny2guns Wrote:if you think holding copyright for fifty years is cool then fine, as for everything else you said. tough tit. from now on i won't respond to anything you say in here or the general discussion.(03-09-2010, 02:43 PM)billy Wrote:Are you for real? I said it's a secret because it is a secret nobody knows for sure what the whole agreement is because it is being discussed in secret. It's not my secret, I only know what I told you and thats it because they do not tell me their secrets.(03-09-2010, 02:30 PM)Benny2guns Wrote: What is the world population at this point in time and how many of those people have computers and are on line? Thats my point bill nothing more. People with a few bucks and some time are on line and business uses it, governments use it and so on but most of the people in the world today still have no access.how much of the worlds population lives in the usa....
I'm not going to pull ACTA apart here as it is a secret agreement so I can't. What is know of it is wrong in my opinion. Just the fact that it is secret is enough to condemn it for me. Thats about all I have to say on the subject.
The conspiracy theory angle Carry's no weight with me personally and is only used to discredit facts before people take the time to research the facts for themselves.
Dissapointed...yes but I should have known better after all you can't tell a Heinz pickle anything. Thats not me attacking you.
how much of the worlds population use the net?
and what about the present copyright laws. you happy with them? yopu don't want them changed?
you didn't answer about the email privacy either? you simply said no changes to the law out of hand, why was that?
you're not going to pull acta apart here because it's a secret.
wtf? i thought you were all for telling the people how it is. about not suppressing stuff. about enlightening us. enlighten me benny you for acta or against. because if you're against it you want the laws re copyright and privacy changing. which makes a mockery of this which was written by me;
i think we could do with a few new protocols and laws to make it people safe etc. copyright laws. privacy laws.
and answered by you;
No
when i say conspiracy theories i also take it as given that both sides of them spread dissemination for their own purpose. most of what i see re them for and against is utter bullshit. i do not and will not believe everything i read or view just because i can.
No laws or agreements in a free world should be made or discussed in secret. Thats just something I personally believe. You don't think so then tough tit.
You make demands that I answerer your questions and when I do you either misunderstand my answerers or are blatantly twisting them to suit yourself. Again if you can't or refuse to understad me then I say again tough tit.
Fuck the states I asked world wide, since when is the USA the world.
When you say conspiracy theories I know exactly what you mean and if you don't like the fact that I do then tough tit.
I could care less about what you think about copy write laws, In Canada the laws are cool with me and I do not want to see them changed. But hey if you don't like that then again tough tit bill.
Truly wish I could pull ACTA apart but it's being dictated to me so I guess thats just tough tit too.
So how many people are there in the world right now?
So how many have terminals with access to the net?
you had no problem showing us what acta was with the vids in the same thread you told us this:
Well it's a world agreement between all of the countries involved. Those that are not involved will have to agree to it before being allowed certain trade agreements in the future. [b]What it does is allow for censership of anything not wanted public. It gives ISP's the power to disconnect users if they think inapropriate use has occured. Who decides what that is is a good question. In order for ISP's to do this they will be preforming deep packet inspestions i think it is called. That means all of our private stuff. It is the same as opening your mail and reading it before you get it and censoring it. This will be done with out consent and is going through on the premiss of looking for copy protected illegal downloads. It is an invaison of privacy and the same thing that is done to a criminals mail in prison. ISP's will have no choice in the matter as thay are being charged with the policeing end of it without being legal law enforcement. In essence anything said online will be monitered, thats what it boils down to. They will actually have the right to enter your home and remove your computer equipment, disconect your sirvace and never have charged you with a crime.
One of the link's in my first post, the last one has a clickable player on the left, click it and listen to what he has to say on the topic.[/b]
yet in this thread you say things are okay as they are.
it gives the isp powers to disconnect..
note the invasion of privacy line.
note the monitoring line.
note the line of it allows censorship.
but your okay with things as they are. because we already have all the above in MOST countries including the usa and canada. they can already take your pc if they SUSPECT you've committed a crime using it..
as for the wtf. id' say the above paragraph is either spoken because you read, heard or saw it somewhere or it's a load of bollocks. according to it and the vids in the same thread it isn't at all secret. how the fuck can it be if all these vids are strewn across the net.
so yeah if you want to play tough tit. tough fuckin tit. don't expect me or anyone else to believe shit you admit to knowing nothing about.
