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		V. 5 thanks to billy
 last stanza edited
 
 To and From
 
 The boarding pass
 in your small hand
 bears our last name,
 
 wrinkled and worn
 above the emblem of an airline
 and the couplet,
 
 To and From.
 These two words
 pull and part
 
 the way an airport can fill
 or empty the back seat of a car.
 Those six letters let you fly
 
 alone, the first time,
 next to a sleeping mother
 whose son whispers lyrics
 
 beside her. To your left,
 an aisle filled in Queens
 files away in Texas.
 
 It will take only twenty steps
 to reach the door,
 1,500 miles away
 
 from the hand
 that pulled your suitcase,
 the arms that held you
 
 and released,
 the checkpoint, and
 the tremble of a wave.
 
 
 
 V. 4
 
 (props to billy, dale, bronte, abu, and mark)
 changes- numerous!
 played with tenses to make it try and make the piece more cohesive
 Stanza 1 more closely resembles Erthona's suggestions (many thanks)
 S. 3 changed  "part and bring together" to "pull and part" to be more parallel with "fill...empty" in the next stanza
 final two stanzas reworked
 my appreciation to everyone's comments, they have been extraordinarily helpful
 
 
 To and From
 
 The boarding pass
 in your small hand
 bears our last name,
 
 wrinkled and worn
 above the emblem of an airline
 and the couplet,
 
 To and From.
 These two words
 pull and part,
 
 the way an airport can fill
 or empty the back seat of a car.
 Those six letters let you fly
 
 alone, the first time,
 next to a sleeping mother
 whose son whispers lyrics
 
 beside her. To your left,
 an aisle filled in Queens
 files away in Texas.
 
 It will take only twenty steps
 to reach the door,
 1,500 miles away
 
 from the hand
 that pulled your suitcase,
 the arms that held you
 
 and released,
 the checkpoint where,
 glancing back, you walked out of view.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 V. 3 complete rewrite
 title changed
 
 
 To and From
 
 In your palm, a ticket curled
 as the terminal grew
 larger than any window in the car.
 
 The boarding pass, wrinkled,
 bore  our last name
 above the couplet
 
 To and From,
 words that part
 and bring together
 
 the way an airport
 can fill or empty the back seat.
 Those six letters let you fly
 
 alone, the first time,
 next to a sleeping mother
 whose son whispers lyrics
 
 beside her. To your left,
 an aisle filled in Queens
 will file away in Texas.
 
 It takes only twenty steps
 to reach the door,
 1,500 miles away
 
 from where it last opened,
 near the full garage
 where we parked and smiled,
 
 the checkpoint
 where, glancing back,
 you walked out of view.
 
 
 
 v. 2
 "tend to" and "though" added to S.6
 
 Half a goodbye
 
 carried you down the jet way,
 the other half tangled
 with the keys in my pocket.
 
 The handshake had ended. The revolving door
 folded you into the lobby.
 The attendant shipped your bag North,
 
 the same bag you emptied
 from my trunk like a bullet
 from a barrel. Now that you are
 
 gone, there is nothing
 to pile on the backseat, the same
 seat you emptied
 
 when the terminal walked up
 to your window
 and knocked.
 
 I tend to drive alone with the radio
 off, your window cracked
 and tuned to the breeze, though
 
 a block from home
 I noticed
 the stereo was on,
 
 no wind to course through
 the ache of a guitar
 and no one else to hear.
 
 
 
 
 
 V. 1
 
 Half a goodbye
 
 carried you down the jet way,
 the other half tangled
 with the keys in my pocket.
 
 The handshake had ended. The revolving door
 folded you into the lobby.
 The attendant shipped your bag North,
 
 the same bag you emptied
 from my trunk like a bullet
 from a barrel. Now that you are
 
 gone, there is nothing
 to pile on the backseat, the same
 seat you emptied
 
 when the terminal walked up
 to your window
 and knocked.
 
 Though I drive alone with the radio
 off, your window cracked
 and tuned to the breeze,
 
 a block from home
 I noticed
 the stereo was on,
 
 no wind to course through
 the ache of a guitar
 and no one else to hear.
 
 
 
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		Such a somber piece. I enjoy sadness so much when it is theoretical    
I love so much about this poem, but I will just try to give you the little stumbles I had. (It could just be me, of course.)
  (03-19-2012, 05:37 AM)Philatone Wrote:  carried you down the jet way,the rest of it tangled
 with the keys in my pocket. --what 'it'?? I love the way this makes me feel, but I can only guess what it could be: the situation, the conversation, the feelings between them?
 
 The handshake had ended. The revolving door
 folded you into the lobby. --very nice. you have a knack for picking very nice and fresh words.
 The attendant shipped your bag North,
 
 the same bag you emptied
 from my trunk like a bullet
 from a barrel. Now that you are
 
 gone, there is nothing
 to pile on the backseat, the same
 seat you emptied
 
 when the terminal walked up
 to your window
 and knocked. --nice way to put it. I never would have thought of that.
 
 Though I drive alone with the radio
 off, your window cracked
 and tuned to the breeze,
 
 a block from home
 I noticed
 the stereo was on, --
  I thought the stereo was off. 
 no wind to course through
 the ache of a guitar
 and no one else to hear.
 
All in all I love it. It is so lonesome and the words are all well chosen. Thanks for sharing.   
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		hey mark
 thanks for the time and the input; I'm going to try and address some of those issues you raised.
 appreciate the feedback
 
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		  This work is going nowhere   in this format When  I read any work in  first  person as the narrator of a piece
 I tend to steel myself away from the  whining   that most
 often is produced.
 Maybe it’s because we are just meeting
 saying  Hi!   “How are you”  polite like!  Because that is what happens  when
 you the poet and  me the reader come together, strangers meeting on the street.
 and  it begins  “Hi  how are you? ( I’m reading you)
 “it’s my leg”’ or my back is killing me.  “I’m all alone and unloved!! Wahhh! “
 
 Much better if you’re the  third person
 being engaged   as a bard  for the next few moments  while  both
 poet and reader engage  we gossip  .
 “tell me the story of them” I say
 But why in  all that’s bubbling  would you bring in a bullet simile ?
 “ I want to kill that bitch imagery” comes to mind . I hate that simile intensely,
 all the same, the  trunk!!!, I only now figured it out as the boot of the car
 not your travelling truck.. See   it’s better to make plain and not rely
 on the reader doing your thought prossess for you.  Write the thing I say
 it makes the  poet more proficient at crafting.
 And the last two lines  made this hardened old  reader want to gag.   Re draft it in third person, be the N
 it will give you a 2nd poem anyway  and  it can’t kill you outright can it?
 but this busting headache  might yet kill me today! Ouch!
 
 
 
 
 
 
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		Geoff, 
Yeah, I have to agree with the babe above    
You seem more invested in being poetic and clever than telling the story in a way that makes much sense.
 
See this line
 
"The revolving door 
folded you into the lobby."
 
while nice is gratuitous because it is not attached to anything in the story, and does not come about naturally. It says, "Oh look, I have a clever way to describe something!"  Plus, it really makes no sense. Maybe "ejects you into the lobby", by why only them? What does that have to do with the story. 
 
Sorry Geoff, but the way this reads to me is as a number of clever metaphor's loosely strung together trying to give the impression that there is  a story here somewhere...except I can't find the story.
 
Dale  
	
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		notes taken, appreciate the time and feedback
	 
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		 On the plus side mate!  , there is a vast audience   that laps up this style of   writing, and a  vast array of writers churning it out. I’d like to see the poets here  become  stand-alone and unique in their  way of bewitching me  every day.   you the poet me the reader, because
 I don’t want to be a poet
 
 PS-- and I’m selfish  and want good reading material for free  ,
 
 
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		i took no negativity from it; it was an experiment with a couple of things that didn't turn out as well as expected. your comments on the images were deserved; poor decisions on my part.  i would hope to have your, dale's, and mark's opinion on the edit when it finally comes around; i hope to have a draft this week.
 
 again, i thank you for your time
 
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		 (03-19-2012, 11:29 AM)Philatone Wrote:  i took no negativity from it; it was an experiment with a couple of things that didn't turn out as well as expected. your comments on the images were deserved; poor decisions on my part.  i would hope to have your, dale's, and mark's opinion on the edit when it finally comes around; i hope to have a draft this week.
 
 again, i thank you for your time
 
 phew!    I'm glad of that!  
	 
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		 (03-19-2012, 05:37 AM)Philatone Wrote:  v. 2"tend to" and "though" added to S.6
 
 Half a goodbye
 
 carried you down the jet way, for some reason i;m thinking 'sci fi' with jet way, though i'm thinking it's the departure terminal
 the other half tangled
 with the keys in my pocket. i quite like the division of the goodbye
 
 The handshake had ended. The revolving door
 folded you into the lobby.
 The attendant shipped your bag North, i think this line could be improved
 
 the same bag you emptied
 from my trunk like a bullet
 from a barrel. Now that you are cliche, and the enjambment falls down a little for me
 
 gone, there is nothing again the enjambs make me stall
 to pile on the backseat, the same back-seat or back seat
 seat you emptied i do like the words of this stanza, i just think it could be en-jambed much better.
 
 when the terminal walked up feels a bit ambiguous
 to your window
 and knocked.
 
 I tend to drive alone with the radio
 off, your window cracked
 and tuned to the breeze, though
 
 a block from home
 I noticed
 the stereo was on,
 
 no wind to course through
 the ache of a guitar
 and no one else to hear.
 for me a lot of the problems spring from the enjambment (throughout) i think if you sorted that out most of what i find at fault would be fixed.  
at first i felt it was father son then i wasn't sure any more. as it is, i'd concentrate on the line ends and when you think you've got them right, see if you can add a bit more substance, it feels like an easy going piece and i'm not sure if it should or shouldn't, does he care about the person leaving or doesn't he, i think you could make that a definite either way. 
i don't think you need to do a great big edit to get it where i think you think it should be. jmo
 
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		reworked edition is here to be torn down again! i mean that in the most positive way possible    
thanks for the time, billy. in the interest of taking the piece in a new direction, i decided to opt for a rewrite. i did see your take on the enjambment, particularly in the 4th stanza. hopefully, this new version does not suffer as heavily from similar problems (though other factors always emerge). 
appreciate your feedback
	
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		Let me know when you post it.
 Dale
 
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		i have posted the new version on the first page. it's above the other versions; i figured since the poems came from the same progression, it might be good to keep them together. and i didn't want to dominate the boards.
 it's version 3, titled "To and From"
 i would love to have a critical eye like yours demolish it
 
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		Geoff, 
This is better. It has more substance. I think it is either twice too long, or not half as long as it needs to be.     
I think you cheat yourself out of the emotional impact by adding to much extraneous stuff, and by creating confusion in terms of point of view: who is where and when?   
 
The long would include more detail about what is happening, the short would be limited to these points. I wrote it out so I could be clear on what was what, I don't offer this as an example of how it should be (in fact the ending still eludes me), just what points seem important and by inference which are not.    
 
Dale
 
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In your small hand a ticket. 
The boarding pass that 
bears our last name above the couplet—
 
To and From: 
words that part 
or bring together, 
the same way an airport 
can fill or empty a back seat.
 
Ticket: those six letters  
let you fly away alone.  
This is your first  time.  
You will sit next to a sleeping mother  
with her son beside her: 
whispering lyrics.  
To your left, an aisle filled  
in Queens departing in Texas.
 
It takes only twenty steps 
to reach that door 
—1,500 miles away— 
the door, just passed the checkpoint 
where, glancing back, 
you walk out of view.
	
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		 great to see you can   do a rewrite, few  can let go of their scribbles  when they are  too close  ( high five)  
  not sure if my reading is anywhere near ,  but now I see a sad father seeing his child away  not a  sad lover  as I did . I got that from "small hand" right at the start  and  my tail pricked up and wagged. 
 
 ditto Dale  --- I have to run away now,  going to court      this should be fun   
	
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		 (03-19-2012, 05:37 AM)Philatone Wrote:  V. 3 complete rewritetitle changed
 
 
 To and From
 
 In your palm, a ticket curled
 as the terminal grew
 larger than any window in the car.
 
 The boarding pass, wrinkled,
 bore  our last name
 above the couplet
 
 To and From,
 words that part
 and bring together
 
 the way an airport
 can fill or empty the back seat.
 Those six letters let you fly
 
 alone, the first time,
 next to a sleeping mother
 whose son whispers lyrics i like this stanza a lot i'm not sure how old the person is but i get a feel it's young, yet old enough to travel
 
 beside her. To your left,
 an aisle filled in Queens
 will file away in Texas.
 
 It takes only twenty steps
 to reach the door,
 1,500 miles away and this one, it has a finality
 
 from where it last opened,
 near the full garage
 where we parked and smiled,
 
 the checkpoint
 where, glancing back,
 you walked out of view.
 
 
 hi Geoff, brave edit and one that for me improves the piece 5 fold. now i can identify with the loss, or a loss, (it could just be how i see it). the enjambment feels more adept, though for me;
the way an airport can fill or empty the back seat.
 Those six letters let you fly
 
would work better as;
the way an airport can fill or empty the back seat.
 Those six letters let you fly
 
like a fool i read dale's crit, and have to say he made a valid point. (for me) . if i were yu which of course i'm not, i'd try and add some more solidity and replace a couple of less profound lines such as;
 
above the couplet
 
To and From, 
overall i think you did a great job in turning the poem round. 
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		Candidly, I began reading this rather irascibly, and wondering what was the point of the line-breaks, and why not just write out a simple paragragh. I thought figures of speech in earlier versions were overblown: airports don' walk about. However, having read it several times in all its incarnations (cliche), I find it has a quiet, sad, tone which I rather like. Arrivals and Departures must all the time be a place of much joy, and much hand-wringing!
	 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		dalei think i've gotten the substance to show a little more, but if you feel it is still lacking to a degree I would love to know. I tried to ensure every detail is crucial and integral to the meaning. thanks for your eye and your time
 
 bronte
 thank you for your time and suggestions, I hope I have salvaged the poem at least to some degree in your eyes. the idea of a rewrite was the strongest I could have had for the piece, though I had little planning on how much the idea of the piece would change (which comes with rewriting I suppose). I hope that the substance has increased a bit, though it is probably my weakest area in writing, with others in a close second. thanks for your time
 
 billy
 your suggestion for that stanza was great. thanks for the critiques on both; always valuable feedback.
 
 abu
 i hope the stanzas have justified themselves; I'd prefer not to do paragraph though I can certainly see elements that, if adjusted, could work that way. I'm glad you like the tone, and am gladder to have your thoughts. thank you
 
 
 
 
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		seriously geoff, i think the way you edit is brave and sensible. you're not afraid to chop and hack if you think that's what's required. for me this latest version actually captures a moment, a time, a place, coherently for me the reader to really understand. with this latest edit i feel i'm in the picture. if i had 1 nit, it would be the last verse;
 and released,
 the checkpoint where,
 glancing back, you walked out of view.
 for me it's a bit  drwn out (though i'm sure that was intentional; would something like;
 
 and released,
 the checkpoint where,
 glanced back. or
 
 and released,
 the checkpoint where,
 you waved.  jmo
 
 all in all really well work-shopped, from this point i'd keep any edit small so as to not lose what you've achieved.
 
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		billy,when i was getting into poetry most seriously, my friend/ far superior writer advised me to kill my babies, which is the advice that never left me. no line is safe.
 
 personally, I hate the idea--no one likes losing parts of the family-- but I don't think any tip has ever helped me more. it really opens up what you can do with a poem when you can make it explode. I appreciate your kind words; I guess I just approach it as a part of the job. it makes it a little easier.
 
 for some reason, I keep posting poems and revisions when I doubt sections, and people reaffirm my suspicions. I should trust myself more. I was looking at the last stanza for the same reasons you were. I think i'll cut just a little more
 
 thanks for the repeated visits; those are the most helpful since they see the whole progression. I'm glad that you were able to feel invested in the moment
 
 
 
 
 
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