nuclear deterrents

[billy]

nuclear deterrents;

up to now they've work.
no ones used them to attack anyone else (after they were used in Japan)
is this going to be the norm or will things in say, the middle east or N Korea escalate to the point of now return. if for instance isreal did drop a localised one on iran would isreal itself be nuked.

same goes for N Korea if the USA were to drop one on it. would other countries retaliate on the victims behalf or would everyone just sit tight in the hope of them not being drawn into a world annihilation?

i'm pretty sure if things go as they are some will detonate a nuke within the next ten years.

[srijantje]

the usa can do what it wants.if israel uses one on iran nobody can retaliate without getting wiped out by the usa.the only ones going tit for tat at the moment would be india and pakistan,very bad situation that those 2 have a nuclear arsenal.
the americans[and europeans for that matter] only have to worry about having some sort of bomb smuggled into their country.

[mrmod]

In my opinion, it'll be like a fire popper - in a fireworks factory.

Watch them glow

[billy]

would iran be silly enough, would N Korea.

i doubt the iranians would fire one off but if kim dies and some other
tyrant gets in with loose marbles i think they may, should they be allowed to build one. or indeed be given on. and as srijanji said. whatabout india and pakistan (though they do seem to be a bit more friendly as of late (after the bombings))

[srijantje]

i'm not so worried about the indian or pakistani 'governments'.but if some weirdo in pakistan gets his hands on the trigger,all hell breaks loose.
about the koreans,yes they have undoubtly loose marbles but they're not stupid.

[billy]

where do you think the best place would be to live if two countries decided to bltz each other.

[srijantje]

New Zealand

[billy]

would anywhere above ground be safe.

thinking about it, once a bomb was dropped it would be hard if not impossible for everyone not to wade in. maybe it's what the planet needs. thin us out a bit.

[srijantje]

yes the planet def.needs thinning out but let's figure out a better way to do it.

[Benny2guns]

I have to chuckle at thinning out the planet, who goes first?, any takers?? Thats ridiculous and more the point of having nukes is supposed to be to protect those that have them from people with idea's like that. Sad fact is that we the people never build anything that we do not intend to use in the first place. When it becomes financially feasible to use a nuke to gain a substantial profit it will be used again.
Safest place to be i think is where ever there is no human life at present thriving as this would not be a target. Deep under ground would be prefered but at a cost few can afford.
If you start digging now, you may end up safe!

[mrmod]

where do you think the best place would be to live if two countries decided to bltz each other.

North Western part of Canada is pretty safe.
It is upwind from the cities that will get fried.

I live about 5/10 miles (as the crow flies) from a military air base Hooray, i wont even feel it .

[srijantje]

yeah,that's prob.the best place to be

[Benny2guns]

I've a head start, I started digging 11 years ago.

[billy]

I have to chuckle at thinning out the planet, who goes first?, any takers?? Thats ridiculous and more the point of having nukes is supposed to be to protect those that have them from people with idea's like that. Sad fact is that we the people never build anything that we do not intend to use in the first place. When it becomes financially feasible to use a nuke to gain a substantial profit it will be used again.
Safest place to be i think is where ever there is no human life at present thriving as this would not be a target. Deep under ground would be prefered but at a cost few can afford.
If you start digging now, you may end up safe!

i said it more from a naturalists point of view :p
maybe if it happened just enough would survive to start over. i doubt it would take long to get back to where we are technology wise. whilst we'd have a fair bit of radiation the earth would have a chance to heal itself.
of course. no one wants to see billions die. the sane people wouldn't fire a nike but the likes of iran, and possibly isreal, along with N. korea might. specially n. korea, kim would do it as a farewell gift to the west lol.

[nVeve]

Iran having nukes scares me. we need to start firing now and hope we hit any that he has now.

seriously this guy thinks his death will bring the birth of the 13th muhammad.
thats like the president of the US saying when i die for religion jesus will be reborn. thats just crazy and do u really want this guy to have nukes

[billy]

i doubt anyone wants iran to have nukes except some Iranians.
i think the west are hoping Israel will maybe drop a small one on them, but i wouldn't hold my breath. sooner or later every country in the world will be able to get their hands on small dirty weapons. for me it's a back door bomb that will start something if anything off.

[billy]

i agree. though i'm not sure who it should be that drops it.

i think a time must and will come when nuclear is no longer a deterrent.
maybe using one now would forestall the use of them on a wider scale later.
wouldn't it be good if the un and all it's members agreed to nuke irans nuke programs. that said the argument of; should one country or many be able to decide the fate of another?

[srijantje]

what are you guys talking about?the only country that ever used them should tell others what to do?i have the bomb but nobody else can have it because it's dangerous.only responsible countries can have one and we decide who that is,like israel.
don't forget ronnie saying something like,we might be the generation that will witness armageddon

[billy]

that's what i'm asking. if anyone uses the bomb (love how we define it as "The Bomb") what will others do. even if they wanted to get involved would they take such a risk.

[srijantje]

well,as it looks now it's gonna be used as a "preemptive strike".much along the lines of,"he has weapons of mass destruction"