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Quote:The British government condemned China's execution of a British national Tuesday on drug smuggling charges.
"I ... am appalled and disappointed that our persistent requests for clemency have not been granted," Prime Minister Gordon Brown said. "I am particularly concerned that no mental health assessment was undertaken."
Akmal Shaikh was convicted of carrying up to 4 kilograms (8.8 pounds) of heroin at the Urumqi Airport in September 2007. China says he received due process under its laws, and he exhausted his appeals last week.
The British Foreign Office confirmed Tuesday's execution, however, there was no immediate comment from China.
Video: Relatives seek mercy
Ahead of carrying out the death sentence, China said it had followed the law.
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should foreign nationals be treated the same way as the (for want of a better word) natives. should countries bow to the demands of say in this case; the UK. why should foreigners be treated any differently.
not just re the death sentence cases but all cases. often we hear of people being released early because one government stepped in for them
personally i think it's hog wash. if you commit a crime in another country you should be tried by their laws. the uk are crying foul because it's the right thing to do but is it? shouldn't we applaud when these people get caught. i know i do.
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I don't wish the deathpenalty on anyone,one can agree with certain laws or not but yes,if you get caught in a country you should be tried under their law.still,the u.k.government did the right thing protesting his execution,was the moral thing yo do.
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(12-30-2009, 01:18 AM)velvetfog Wrote: Giving heroin smugglers the death penalty is an efficient way to make sure that they mend their ways.
i agree but what about crimes that don't involve drugs.
often the mother country's up in arm over the treatment of their citizen.
i think australia juts recently had a debacle with china (it's always china lol) about one of it's citizens charged with leaking company documents
same with the usa and iran (spying)
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would that happen now.
and them being americans means they only worked for a foreign gov.
it was really just a case of the usa killing their own citizens.
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(12-30-2009, 07:19 AM)velvetfog Wrote: You can get the death penalty for spying in the U.S.A.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_and_Ethel_Rosenberg
Personally, I don't think we hang enough corrupt politicians.
if we did that,there wouldn't be any left
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Can a politician actually be held accountable for anything they do ?
Or do they just get an early pension?
I think they all have a get out of jail free card and a guaranteed pension plan as a prerequisite to taking office. Pretty good deal really if you ask me and even if you don't.
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(12-31-2009, 06:35 AM)velvetfog Wrote: To get back to the OP questions, anyone who commits a crime in a country is subject to the laws of that country.
If you think the Chinese government's death penalty for heroin smugglers is excessive, then don't be fool enough to smuggle heroin into that country. The colour, or issuing authority of your passport is not a relevant issue here.
China has to take a hard stance against heroin smuggling. They don't have much of a choice. Remember China's opium war past. That country can ill afford to end up with millions of junkies again today.
i agree. i think at times the countries of the accused should actually applaud
the actions taken against their citizens. i remember when i went to Thailand. the death penalty for drug smuggling was plastered everywhere. i think it fair for a country to ask questions as to the treatment of prisoners (its citizens)and try and make sure there's no mistreatment of them.
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i agree with the manson statement but he was home grown.
back on topic;
personally i think the uk should have thanked the chinese gov.
i'm sick of seeing all the stupid people crying about their mistreatment after
being caught with a kilo of h or coke on their person.
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i agree with you Bill,but where are you gonna draw the line?ounce of grass?3strikes and you're out?
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it depends on the laws of the particular country surely
if a country says a death penalty for smuggling a joint then that's what it is
for everyone in the country. if they say life then it's life. drug laws here are really strict though if you have enough money you can often buy your way out of it. so foriegners have some kind of headway on locals because they're often wealthier.
