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		Revision#2
 Samson follows Goliath;
 A Panoramic
 
 
 She, just resting her eyes,
 leans her head on my shoulder and
 falls asleep. I try prodding
 a gentle elbow
 to the ribs
 but she snores
 turns over and dreams of
 the ikat padding
 tattered behind her.
 Leaving me weary
 but unsleeping
 don’t want to miss
 our destination as
 Samson follows Goliath
 climbing through fogged window
 the sun rising at their backs
 behemoths of the skyline
 craning their necks to catch
 a glimpse of us Kodak faced.
 I’ve captured their likeness
 with every little trip,
 she’s seen them before,
 scrolling through
 thumbed holiday snaps and
 said time and time again,
 “wud like t’s’em me sen,”
 but come tomorrow
 it’ll be back to
 thumbed photographs
 again.
 
 
 
 
 Revision#1
 
 Samson follows Goliath;
 A Panoramic
 
 
 She, just
 resting her eyes,
 leans her head
 on my shoulder and
 falls asleep.
 I try prodding
 a gentle elbow
 to the ribs
 but she snores
 turns over and dreams of
 the ikat padding
 tattered behind her...
 Leaving me weary
 but unsleeping
 don’t want to miss
 our destination as
 Samson follows Goliath
 climbing through fogged window
 the sun rising at their backs
 behemoths of the skyline-
 I’ve captured their likeness
 with every little trip,
 she’s seen them before,
 scrolling through
 thumbed holiday snaps and
 said time and time again,
 “wud like t’s’em me sen,”
 but come tomorrow
 it’ll be back to
 thumbed photographs
 again.
 
 
 Original
 
 Samson follows Goliath;
 A Panoramic
 
 
 She, just
 resting her eyes,
 leans her head
 on my shoulder and
 falls asleep
 ever so quickly —
 I try prodding
 a gentle elbow
 to the ribs
 but she snores noisily
 turns over and dreams of
 the ikat padding
 tattered behind her...
 Leaving me weary
 but unsleeping
 don’t want to miss
 our destination as
 Samson follows Goliath
 climbing through fogged window
 the sun rising at their backs
 behemoths of the skyline-
 I’ve captured their likeness
 with every little trip,
 she’s seen them before,
 scrolling through
 thumbed holiday snaps and
 said time and time again
 “wud like t’s’em me sen”
 but come tomorrow
 it’ll be back to
 thumbed photographs
 again.
 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		Hey 20_Hamilton_18, 
Welcome to the site    
I like the overall feel to this poem. However, my biggest suggestion would be to try to limit some of your wording in spots because it doesn't add much to what you're saying. I'll go into more detail below:
  (02-25-2018, 03:10 AM)20_Hamilton_18 Wrote:  Samson follows Goliath; A Panoramic
 
 
 She, just
 resting her eyes,
 leans her head
 on my shoulder and
 falls asleep
 ever so quickly — -I would just say "quickly". The "ever so" isn't needed.
 I try prodding
 a gentle elbow
 to the ribs
 but she snores noisily -Drop the "noisily". The word "snores" implies noise by itself.
 turns over and dreams of
 the ikat padding
 tattered behind her... -This is a nice specific image. I just wonder if it's worth expanding on. I say this because it caught my interest, and I would like to know more as a reader.
 Leaving me weary
 but unsleeping -I know that "unsleeping" isn't a word, but I like it here. I'm a fan of when poets try to create new words.
 don’t want to miss
 our destination as
 Samson follows Goliath
 climbing through fogged window
 the sun rising at their backs
 behemoths of the skyline- - I like this description here. I'm assuming Samson and Goliath are mountains, but is that their real names? If not, I feel like this comparison to Samson and Goliath needs to be explored more.
 I’ve captured their likeness -Why not just say, "I've photographed them"? This line feels a little bit over wordy to me.
 with every little trip,
 she’s seen them before,
 scrolling through
 thumbed holiday snaps and
 said time and time again -Need a comma at the end of this line.
 “wud like t’s’em me sen” -Need a comma at the end of this line.
 but come tomorrow
 it’ll be back to
 thumbed photographs
 again. -I like this ending. It captures the overall feeling of the poem rather well. I wonder if this poem is really about Samson and Goliath or the speaker's relationship with their significant other, and would this be better reflected in the title by just naming the poem: "A Panoramic"? Just a thought.
 Another idea I had as I reread this piece, was what would happen if you played around with the line length by combining some of the lines. I think that might be worth exploring. Overall, I think you have a nice first draft, and I look forward to seeing where you go from here with this poem.
 
Cheers, 
Richard
	
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		Richard, 
Thank you so much for your time, I'll definitely be sitting down and taking some of your suggestions and using them when it comes the development of this piece.
 
Samson and Goliath are in actual fact not mountains, although we do have a hill with a cave on it called "Napoléon's Nose" but cranes in the Harland and Wolf shipyard at Belfast docks. I've lived outside Ireland for almost ten years now and everytime I go home I end up with loads of pictures of them on my phone. 
 
Again thank you so much for the feedback, I do really appreciate it
 
Johnny
 
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		Hey Johnny,I wonder if you could play around with describing the cranes, making them sound like cranes and Samson and Goliath at the same time... just a thought.
 
 Cheers,
 Richard
 
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		Hey Richard, 
 Interesting thought re the cranes, currently having a play around with that idea of yours and I'll let you know how it goes.
 
 Johnny
 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		Hey Johnny,nice sketch - though I don't think your line lengths
 are doing you any favours and I'd again suggest
 breaking it up into verses.
 
 She, just
 I think you need to remove the comma,
 you've just started and one word later a pause.
 It's not a particularly 'inviting' introduction.
 (Though I've got Charles Aznavour in my head now)
 Consider;
 She's just 'resting her eyes',
 leaning her head on my shoulder
 falling asleep...
 resting her eyes,
 leans her head
 on my shoulder and
 falls asleep.
 
 I try prodding
 a gentle elbow
 to the ribs
 but she snores
 turns over and dreams of
 the ikat padding
 tattered behind her...
 I'd suggest either cutting this or moving it,
 I think the piece would flow better to go from
 'falls asleep' straight to
 Leaving me weary
 but unsleeping
 Not keen on 'unsleeping' so
 soon after 'asleep'.
 Seems like you're trying a bit too hard.
 
 don’t want to miss
 (who doesn't?
 Because if it is her, then why is she asleep?)
 our destination as
 (you could tuck a clue in here, perhaps
 the name of the train station or similar
 - though I can't tell what the mode of transport is.)
 Samson follows Goliath
 climbing through fogged window
 'climbing through'? As in 'entering'?
 the sun rising at their backs
 (could they be 'hauling the sun up'
 or something? A hint as to the fact they're cranes?)
 behemoths of the skyline-
 not sure the last line adds anything
 (the names imply 'behemoth' anyway,
 and it feels like an awkward phrase).
 
 I’ve captured their likeness
 (How? It suggests a process different
 from 'holiday snaps')
 with every little trip,
 why 'little'? And why do you do it?
 Is it a one constant in a changing world
 sort of thing, or what?
 she’s seen them before,
 Are you trying to say
 she's only ever seen them...?
 scrolling through
 thumbed holiday snaps and
 said time and time again,
 “wud like t’s’em me sen,”
 In which case, why doesn't N wake her?
 but come tomorrow
 it’ll be back to
 thumbed photographs
 again.
 You could cut these last lines
 for, given that she's sleeping,
 they are stating the obvious.
 
 For me, not knowing who 'she' is
 by the end of the piece (girlfriend/wife/daughter/...),
 means I'm not particularly engaged.
 I agree with Richard, this doesn't seem to
 be about the cranes but about the relationship,
 and that part needs developing.
 (The title doesn't really help).
 
 Best, Knot.
 (Apologies, you got a couple of revisions
 in before I could post this.)
 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		Hey Knot, ta for reading, appreciate the feedback as always, going back to this again I'll definitely be looking at building that relationship between N and she a little further. I've tried to look at line lengths and maybe having done that I might start thinking about stanzas also. At any rate I've lots to work on here we'll have to see what the next revision brings eh?
 Cheers Johnny
 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		Hi 20_Hamilton_18, 
      Enjoyed reading this. Here are some thoughts:
 Quote:Samson follows Goliath; A Panoramic
 
 
 She, just resting her eyes,
 leans her head on my shoulder and
 falls asleep. I try prodding
 a gentle elbow
 to the ribs
 but she snores
 turns over and dreams of
 the ikat padding
 tattered behind her. Could expand more on that. Sounds like a good opportunity to make some quirky remarks about aforesaid ikat padding: especially since you consider it dream-worthy.
 Leaving me weary
 but unsleeping
 don’t want to miss
 our destination as
 Samson follows Goliath
 climbing through fogged window
 the sun rising at their backs
 behemoths of the skyline
 craning their necks to catch
 a glimpse of us Kodak faced. Good economy of words here. A lot of images expressed with very few words.
 I’ve captured their likeness
 with every little trip,
 she’s seen them before,
 scrolling through
 thumbed holiday snaps and
 said time and time again,
 “wud like t’s’em me sen,” Didn't quite get that(I am not a native English speaker so don't sweat it - it's probably all right)
 but come tomorrow
 it’ll be back to
 thumbed photographs Not too sure about the repitition of thumbed here. There isn't really a good alternative word though.
 again.
 
The last ten lines or so are a bit less pithy than the rest of the poem (just a remark: not suggesting you change that - it works fine as it is).
	
		
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