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Sweet! I didn't know we had a facebook group.
I found ello to be unusable in its current form. However, the art community seems to be absolutely flocking and thriving there. There is something to be said about that momentum...they just need to bug fix, and come out with the app.
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It's here 
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(10-01-2014, 06:37 PM)Leanne Wrote: It's here
thanks, I joined.
Love the idea of ello as a natural extension of the social network as we know it. Myspace: unbridled expression, good and bad...mostly really bad. Followed by Facebook: structure the creativity and discourse so it can't outgrow its enclosure or offend people too bad. People do not trust Facebook anymore, especially artists who would be crushed by the bastardization inherit with that type of model. Ello seems to fix a lot of these things, but again, I can't use it right now due to the beta being terrible. Also, it needs to be an app.
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When we offend people in predictable ways, it can be censored. Whatever our platform, our challenge as artists is to offend people by challenging them in new and interesting ways.
I enjoy fucking with Facebook.
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(10-01-2014, 04:02 PM)rayheinrich Wrote: $$ for contest entry? $$ for reading fee?
always rip-off? / sometimes ok? / how free should free be?
I think a few dollars to enter a poetry contest is fine. The prize money has to come from somewhere and I don't have a problem with someone making a few bucks to sort through the entries and decide which they like best. It's like buying a lottery ticket, or any gamble. If it's fun for you and you're not spending your rent money and not counting on a win, go ahead, as long as the prize really is what it is presented to be.
To each their own. Personally, I'm busy paying the mortgage and all the other bills that keep a roof over my head so I choose hobbies that don't cost much, buy books used and use the library. I have nothing against others using their money for whatever they want to.
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Money is against my religion. Writing is a suitable way of working for me. I don't believe in having a boss or getting anything in return for anything I do.
But money is as hard to get rid of as it is to get.
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I don't see why not. It's just as pointless as arbitrarily not entering the arbitrary competition. Just like anything else though, make sure it's not a scam first. And make sure you buy food first. Or plant a garden. who knows, maybe the seeds will grow.
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(10-01-2014, 08:59 PM)ellajam Wrote: (10-01-2014, 04:02 PM)rayheinrich Wrote: $$ for contest entry? $$ for reading fee?
always rip-off? / sometimes ok? / how free should free be?
I think a few dollars to enter a poetry contest is fine. The prize money has to come from somewhere and I don't have a problem with someone making a few bucks to sort through the entries and decide which they like best. It's like buying a lottery ticket, or any gamble. If it's fun for you and you're not spending your rent money and not counting on a win, go ahead, as long as the prize really is what it is presented to be.
To each their own. Personally, I'm busy paying the mortgage and all the other bills that keep a roof over my head so I choose hobbies that don't cost much, buy books used and use the library. I have nothing against others using their money for whatever they want to.
agreed, miss ella.
i spend a few bucks here and there on ones that i research and find to be legit and throw some swine before pearls...
erm, i guess that's sposed to be the other way around though. damn. no wonder i never win anything.
sidenote: i sent a request to join the pen's page on the ol book-of-faces: chris chaffin
if you accept me, i will perform a dramatically dramatic rendition of Sally Field's 1985 Academy Award acceptance speech.
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I saw you doing the speech already on youtube. Some might think the bit with the camel was in bad taste, but at least he was wearing a tie.
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better camel tie than camel toe...
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I should have to carry out a cost/benefit analysis before sending off my fiver.
However, I have never yet sent anything to anyone, only partly on financial grounds. I do agree that all means should be used to publicise, although I don't do fb or twitter. It is done in the best circles, however: one of my favourite sites is A Clerk of Oxford, who has no hesitation in making use of the whole gamut. To-day she has 'The Wanderer'.
http://aclerkofoxford.blogspot.co.uk/sea...results=50
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Good lord, I love that poem so much! Anglo Saxon poetry makes me crazy happy. I read the Old English version of Beowulf to my class last year -- they laughed at first but when the rhythms sank in, they loved it too.
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(10-03-2014, 05:04 AM)Leanne Wrote: Good lord, I love that poem so much! Anglo Saxon poetry makes me crazy happy. I read the Old English version of Beowulf to my class last year -- they laughed at first but when the rhythms sank in, they loved it too.
She's a quirky soul, but v interesting. She also seems pretty knowledgeable on poetry outside her Mediaeval period. One of the wonderful things is that there are a number of read-aloud versions which help to get the swing of it. I thought I would be on my own with that site!
Your class are very privileged - let no-one say they were not 'stretched'!
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