< my doll >
                                               
                                                it is long past pretense
                                               
                                                there are women
                                                who put on makeup
                                                that makes them look like dolls
                                                you can find them on the internet
                                               
                                                but they are there
                                                and you are here
                                               
                                                they come to me in pixels
                                                but you are here
                                               
                                                you let me move you
                                                any way i want
                                               
                                                i place your arm here
                                                i place your leg there

                                                your nails are pink
                                                i think i'll make them red
                                               
                                                i'll remove the pink
                                                and carefully
                                                paint on the red
                                               
                                                the same with your lipstick
                                                the same with your lips
                                               
                                                i can undress you
                                                and dress you
                                                in whatever clothes i want
                                               
                                                i can undress you
                                                spread your legs apart
                                                and fuck you
                                               
                                                i can do anything i want with you
                                                you are my doll

                                                you

                                                are the fantasy of many men
                                                but they are out there
                                                they only come in pixels
                                               
                                                they are out there
                                                and i am here
                                               
                                                you let me move you
                                                any way i want
                                               
                                                you are my doll





While criticism is not required, it is sincerely to be hoped for. (Off or On-topic remarks and clever abuse are appreciated as well.)

(05-18-2017, 04:50 PM)rayheinrich Wrote:  


                       

                                                    < my doll >
                                               
                                                it is long past pretense
                                               
                                                there are women
                                                who put on makeup
                                                that makes them look like dolls
                                                you can find them on the internet
                                               
                                                but they are there
                                                and you are here
                                               
                                                they come to me in pixels
                                                but you are here
                                               
                                                you let me move you
                                                any way i want
                                               
                                                i place your arm here
                                                i place your leg there

                                                your nails are pink
                                                i think i'll make them red
                                               
                                                i'll remove the pink
                                                and carefully
                                                paint on the red
                                               
                                                the same with your lipstick
                                                the same with your lips
                                               
                                                i can undress you
                                                and dress you
                                                in whatever clothes i want
                                               
                                                i can undress you
                                                spread your legs apart
                                                and fuck you
                                               
                                                i can do anything i want with you
                                                you are my doll

                                                you

                                                are the fantasy of many men
                                                but they are out there
                                                they only come in pixels
                                               
                                                they are out there
                                                and i am here
                                               
                                                you let me move you
                                                any way i want
                                               
                                                you are my doll





While criticism is not required, it is sincerely to be hoped for. (Off or On-topic remarks and clever abuse are appreciated as well.)

On the (more or less) real plane, actual (inanimate) dolls of great realism and (ahem) utility are now apprently available for sale or rent.  Dressing, etc., is encouraged/accepted, though altering the finish - nails, lips, etc. - is probably discouraged for rentals and (dare one suspect) could void warranty.  Only seen in pixels, of course.

On the (more intended?) plane, a nice conceit.  One is also put (indirectly) in mind of the old Pat Paulsen doll sketch in "Foreplay" (1975).

Enjoyed it!

(05-19-2017, 10:31 PM)dukealien Wrote:  On the (more or less) real plane, actual (inanimate) dolls of great realism and (ahem) utility are now apprently available for sale or rent.  Dressing, etc., is encouraged/accepted, though altering the finish - nails, lips, etc. - is probably discouraged for rentals and (dare one suspect) could void warranty.  Only seen in pixels, of course.

On the (more intended?) plane, a nice conceit.  One is also put (indirectly) in mind of the old Pat Paulsen doll sketch in "Foreplay" (1975).

Enjoyed it!

Thanks. In doing research for this I Googled a few adult doll sights.
You can get very good ones for about $7000 U.S.
RealDoll, a high-end doll manufacturer is developing one with an animated head that responds like Siri.
There's an engadget video that shows the (still in development) doll here.

Photos of RealDoll factory and their dolls can be found here.

Since the dolls have removable vagina's, the company offers a penis attachment. You just unplug the
vagina and plug the penis in to get a she-male. The penis comes from their male doll line. I suppose
you could plug one of the vaginas into the guy doll and get a he-female.

Call me naive, but I took this as a poem about human relationships. What we have at home is not what we see in the media and some of us choose not to emulate that photoshop world. A long-term relationship leaves time for many aspects of the sexual experience, including the control described. Interesting poem that can be turned many ways, pun accidental but applicable.

(05-20-2017, 07:46 PM)ellajam Wrote:  Call me naive, but I took this as a poem about human relationships. What we have at home is not what we see in the media and some of us choose not to emulate that photoshop world. A long-term relationship leaves time for many aspects of the sexual experience, including the control described. Interesting poem that can be turned many ways, pun accidental but applicable.

Well, yes.  It was inspired by an episode of the Love + Radio podcast called "A Girl of Ivory",
which you can find here.   And a story about a man who has two is here.

The episode involves the dolls, but it's really about the power of men over women in this society and of the
ways in which men, especially ones who feel the most powerless, desire to exercise it. Even to the point,
as in the case of these dolls, of creating artificial women who don't have the will (literally) to resist them.

And in the case of those women who transform themselves into dolls... (Various pictures here.)
Is it camouflage used to hide themselves? An appeasement by transforming themselves into something
desirable to people that have power over them? Seeking relief from having to constantly endure this state?
OR
They could be purposefully creating a parody, making an ironic statement, reclaiming dolls to use as a symbol
of power.  After all, these women are the ones, instead of men, doing the creating. And the very act is so
exceptional (like all good art) that it not only reveals, publicizes the disparity, but is an act of power because
it is, in its exception, an anti-social (anti this society) act of rebellion.

Famous quote: "Life isn't 'either-or', it's 'both'." - ?? (at the moment I can't find who said it)

But yes, this poem's main attempt is to comment on our culture using the dolls, a product of it, as both
metaphor and direct example.



P.S.
While the social aspect of these dolls fascinates me, I don't think I could ever have sex with one. The doll is created to
be a powerless woman, one who lacks the ability to consent. Having sex with one would seem too much like rape.
(Which, thinking darkly, is probably another appeal of these dolls.)

I'm still laughin at the detachable vagina - you can change it for a penis, and have an each way bet.

I'm told there are available in NZ https://www.amazon.com/Naughty-Inflatabl...B00N39DJO4

(05-21-2017, 06:32 AM)just mercedes Wrote:  I'm still laughin at the detachable vagina - you can change it for a penis, and have an each way bet.

I'm told there are available in NZ https://www.amazon.com/Naughty-Inflatabl...B00N39DJO4

I thought this was an Australian kind of thing... but since the magnetic fields are all screwed up
south of the equator, I guess all else follows.

Vis-à-vis that sheep: There doesn't seem to be a female version...  or is that a DIY project?

i get the poem and as is often the case with your stuff; like it a lot. i want to feel sad for the doll master but can't. i don't find it repulsive by a long shot but it's also not real. [maybe to the owner] and that's it, it's more about the owner than the doll, which is something i see a rather dark.

after reading it a few times i'm minded of the harrison ford film, Blade Runner, where such dolls are taken to a higher plain of existence than a clever piece of laytex. solid write ray

(05-19-2017, 10:31 PM)dukealien Wrote:  

(05-18-2017, 04:50 PM)rayheinrich Wrote:  


                       

                                                    < my doll >
                                               
                                                it is long past pretense
                                               
                                                there are women
                                                who put on makeup
                                                that makes them look like dolls
                                                you can find them on the internet
                                               
                                                but they are there
                                                and you are here
                                               
                                                they come to me in pixels
                                                but you are here
                                               
                                                you let me move you
                                                any way i want
                                               
                                                i place your arm here
                                                i place your leg there

                                                your nails are pink
                                                i think i'll make them red
                                               
                                                i'll remove the pink
                                                and carefully
                                                paint on the red
                                               
                                                the same with your lipstick
                                                the same with your lips
                                               
                                                i can undress you
                                                and dress you
                                                in whatever clothes i want
                                               
                                                i can undress you
                                                spread your legs apart
                                                and fuck you
                                               
                                                i can do anything i want with you
                                                you are my doll

                                                you

                                                are the fantasy of many men
                                                but they are out there
                                                they only come in pixels
                                               
                                                they are out there
                                                and i am here
                                               
                                                you let me move you
                                                any way i want
                                               
                                                you are my doll





While criticism is not required, it is sincerely to be hoped for. (Off or On-topic remarks and clever abuse are appreciated as well.)

On the (more or less) real plane, actual (inanimate) dolls of great realism and (ahem) utility are now apprently available for sale or rent.  Dressing, etc., is encouraged/accepted, though altering the finish - nails, lips, etc. - is probably discouraged for rentals and (dare one suspect) could void warranty.  Only seen in pixels, of course.

On the (more intended?) plane, a nice conceit.  One is also put (indirectly) in mind of the old Pat Paulsen doll sketch in "Foreplay" (1975).

Enjoyed it!

(05-21-2017, 11:29 AM)billy Wrote:  i get the poem and as is often the case with your stuff; like it a lot. i want to feel sad for the doll master but can't. i don't find it repulsive by a long shot but it's also not real. [maybe to the owner] and that's it, it's more about the owner than the doll, which is something i see a rather dark.

after reading it a few times i'm minded of the harrison ford film, Blade Runner, where such dolls are taken to a higher plain of existence than a clever piece of laytex. solid write ray

To be compared to Blade Runner (and by association to  Philip Dick's Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? is high praise indeed! Thanks.