Homosexual rumors surrounding Senator Lindsey Graham underscore the core reason why the vast majority of Congress members habitually support legislation that is anathema to the interests of the people they are supposed to represent, because politicians rarely achieve positions of influence without being beholden to one form of blackmail or another.

ALIPAC’s William Gheen provoked national headlines last week during a speech in front of thousands of Tea Party supporters when he publicly requested that Graham come out of the closet and admit that he is gay.

“William Gheen called on Senator Lindsey Graham to be honest with American voters about his homosexual lifestyle to assure that Graham’s desire to keep it a secret could no longer be potentially used by political insiders to manipulate Graham’s behavior,” reports Before It’s News. “There are many precedents in American politics where affairs, corruption, addictions, and other situations that politicians wanted concealed were used to manipulate them with unfair advantage.”

“When you have a U.S. Senator from such a conservative state like South Carolina working hand in hand with Obama and New York liberals like Senator Chuck Schumer to pass an Amnesty bill for illegal aliens, there is something very wrong,” said Gheen. “After today’s national broadcasts, the American public will know what the DC insiders know and that was my goal.”
Gheen’s speech has since gone viral on You Tube and prompted a national debate about Graham’s sexuality and if it is being used to blackmail him into pushing the big government agenda.

The open secret that Graham is an alleged homosexual explains why he constantly supports legislation and policies that are almost universally abhorred by his South Carolina constituency – carbon taxes and the phony global warming agenda, pro-amnesty immigration reform, as well as his hostility towards the Tea Party movement.

Graham has been labeled a “Democrat in drag,” a “traitor” and a “disgrace” by conservatives for his policies and was confronted on his global warming advocacy during a town hall meeting in October last year.
This strikes at the very root of why government is broken – politicians may pay lip service to the will of the people to get elected but once in office they click their heels and march to the tune of the controlling elite. That’s because almost every one of them has some dark secret that they can be blackmailed over if they fail to follow the Washington consensus.

This is precisely what we’ve witnessed with President Obama. Despite his promises of hope and a change from the direction of the Bush administration, Obama has followed the same agenda with aggressive uniformity – beefing the war in Afghanistan while expanding it into Pakistan, renewing the Patriot Act, extending warrantless wiretaps, and growing the size of the federal government to unthinkable levels while preparing massive tax hikes.

Obama’s dubious origins, not only the “birther” controversy but the admitted fact that his real name is Barry Soetoro, have been manipulated by the controlling elite to perfection. While never blown wide open, the scandal is kept suitably bubbling under the surface as a threat that if Obama ever does try to be a real leader, his legacy will be completely destroyed.
A more sinister aspect of the same process of blackmail being exercised against Obama is the fact that he is constantly reminded that he is a target for assassination. This was in the news again today with the story of a man who was arrested carrying a gun at a North Carolina airport as President Obama was leaving on board Air Force One.

As we reported earlier this year, throughout the presidential campaign, the public was constantly told that Obama was an assassination target and that his safety was always in jeopardy, a claim that was given credibility after numerous odd secret service security lapses at public events where Obama really was put in danger, whether intentionally or otherwise.

The “gatecrashers” story also served to increase awareness about Obama being vulnerable to attack by people who can seamlessly slip through security and get face to face with the President relatively easily.

It is clear that the neo-cons are holding Obama hostage and issuing a thinly veiled threat by repeating the mantra that the only way to save his political career and his presidency is to attack Iran. There is undoubtedly a mountain of dirt being held back regarding Obama’s past that is being used to blackmail the President into following the new world order agenda – the same as with any President before him.

Becoming President of the United States and indeed being elected top any prominent political office isn’t an opportunity to change things for the better, it’s a deal that politicians make to follow the agenda or if they don’t, to have every intricacy of their private lives exposed to the attack dog media.

Being outed as a homosexual, an adulterer, or having any other personal secret exposed for the endless titillation of the press is the lightest possible punishment a politician can face for stepping out of line. If they don’t have sufficient dirt on them that can be brought out to discredit their name, then all together more unpleasant methods are used.

Blackmail is the primary reason why those in Washington consistently ignore their electorate and push for policies that enjoy little or no support from the majority of Americans.

This is why Congress has an approval rating of a paltry 10 per cent. Nine in ten Americans think Congress is doing a terrible job. This disconnect between politicians and the people isn’t merely due to inherent corruption, it’s primarily because Congress members are completely compromised before they even take office. In most cases, politicians are destroyed by the media before they can even get elected if they don’t have dirt on them that can later be used for blackmail.

Indeed, this is why the cult of personality behind Obama was allowed to be built up to sweep him into office. This is why Wall Street poured billions of dollars into Obama’s campaign fund – because they knew he was compromised, could be easily blackmailed, and would therefore dutifully acquiesce to the orders of the banking elite that he obediently serves.
http://www.infowars.com/blackmail-how-th...liticians/

ofcourse you make sure that the one you funded into office will follow orders once he's there,by any means,that's sound business practice

(04-27-2010, 10:26 AM)srijantje Wrote:  ofcourse you make sure that the one you funded into office will follow orders once he's there,by any means,that's sound business practice

no it isn't sound business practice at all lmao.
it's extremely shaky business practice. especially in this day and age of electronic eavesdropping etc etc,

while certain people may have backed obama i doubt they have anything they can blackmail him with in order to have their wicked way.

say what you want but this stuff really makes me fuckin giggle.
i hold my hands up. i can;t reply any more, i'm a beaten man.

how the fuck can anyone compete with this shit;

Obama’s dubious origins, not only the “birther” controversy

utter fucking tripe in my mind, utter pretentious fabricated tripe. so far off left field as to be atrociously stupid.

and you belive that line sj?
you benny?

i certainly hope if we ever meet we only tell each other jokes.
because i cant take anything info whatever it's called says seriously after reading that line of shite.

i'm off to the sewer. much more common sense there.

^^LMFAO^^ I know I am off topic but really ^^LMFAO^^
Sorry....LMFAO.

ofcourse i don't believe that line,Bill,it's utter bullshit for sure,the sewer it is
but i also believe that Obama is controlled utterly and there's nothing sinister about it

Obama’s dubious origins, not only the “birther” controversy

I don't know what to believe about that and have yet to see a birth certificate. As for it being untrue, if it were I would suspect proof of it to be promptly displaied to lay the matter to rest. It's not like the people have not asked to see it.

(04-27-2010, 10:43 AM)srijantje Wrote:  ofcourse i don't believe that line,Bill,it's utter bullshit for sure,the sewer it is
but i also believe that Obama is controlled utterly and there's nothing sinister about it

last post here,

you think he's controlled by blackmail (no puns)
he's certainly controlled. but i'd say more by circumstance.

what do you think would happen if it ever came to light that he was being black mailed ? you really think it would be a clever way to rule a country?


sorry but for me him being blackmailed is as obtuse as him not being an american citizen born on american soil, having an american parant etc.

like i said i think it's utter fuckin tripe.

I say produce the documents, make them public. Untill such time as that happens it can not be clased as tripe and will do more harm than good. JMO

produce what documents, you don't even know if any documents exist.
and if you or anyone else knew about them i'm sure they'd come to light pretty quickly.

someone says documents exist and people are crying out to see them
someone

says he's not american and blah blah blah.
to me it's utter tripe, to you it may be the truth
but untill you show me the proof and a reliable source i'll carry on taking it as tripe.

(04-28-2010, 05:55 PM)billy Wrote:  produce what documents, you don't even know if any documents exist.
and if you or anyone else knew about them i'm sure they'd come to light pretty quickly.

someone says documents exist and people are crying out to see them
someone

says he's not american and blah blah blah.
to me it's utter tripe, to you it may be the truth
but untill you show me the proof and a reliable source i'll carry on taking it as tripe.

Actually they are saying the documents that prove him to be a USA citizen do not exist. They are saying that any documents that do exsist prove him not to be. In any event, the documents, if they exsist, are being kept from the people of the USA for some reason. That reason is unknown to me. Without seeing proof, me saying it is tripe is really tripe.

(04-28-2010, 06:11 PM)Benny2guns Wrote:  

(04-28-2010, 05:55 PM)billy Wrote:  produce what documents, you don't even know if any documents exist.
and if you or anyone else knew about them i'm sure they'd come to light pretty quickly.

someone says documents exist and people are crying out to see them
someone

says he's not american and blah blah blah.
to me it's utter tripe, to you it may be the truth
but untill you show me the proof and a reliable source i'll carry on taking it as tripe.

Actually they are saying the documents that prove him to be a USA citizen do not exist. They are saying that any documents that do exsist prove him not to be. In any event, the documents, if they exsist, are being kept from the people of the USA for some reason. That reason is unknown to me. Without seeing proof, me saying it is tripe is really tripe.

they are saying , who are saying, some right wing activist conspiracy theorist come idiot:

and by the way, thats what they say about him; so i decided to believe it.

Alexander Emerick Jones (born February 11, 1974) is an American talk radio host and filmmaker. His syndicated news/talk show The Alex Jones Show, based in Austin, Texas, airs via the Genesis Communication Network over 60 AM, FM, and shortwave radio stations across the United States and on the Internet. His websites include Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

Mainstream news sources have referred to him as right-wing,conservative,and a conspiracy theorist. Journalist Michelle Goldberg has stated in The New Republic that Jones represents "an old strain of American conservatism—isolationist, anti-Wall Street, paranoid about elite conspiracies—that last flowered during the John Birch Society’s heyday."

Jones sees himself as a libertarian, and rejects being described as a right-winger. He has also called himself a paleoconservative. In a promotional biography he is described as an "aggressive constitutionalist".

this fucker is the last person on earth i'd belive.

back to obamas b/certificate. weird how some say they've seen it yet you don't believe them. are you also saying his mum isn't american?

so lets get this straight.

you believe everyone who hasn't seen it because they say it doesn't exist. but disbelieve the people who have seen and swore to seeing it because ?

do you really believe his birth certificate wasn't checked, do you really believe his american citizenship wasn't checked? or are you saying they were checked and seen to be false or non existent?

and the proof you have for this is?

infowars? some right wing conservative conspiracy theorist. (it must be true because i've seen people saying thats what he is ) saying obama's not an american.

right. i guess i must be wrong then. if info wars says it, it must be true.

li still think the guy and his radio show come garbage can is tripe.

(04-28-2010, 06:46 PM)billy Wrote:  

(04-28-2010, 06:11 PM)Benny2guns Wrote:  

(04-28-2010, 05:55 PM)billy Wrote:  produce what documents, you don't even know if any documents exist.
and if you or anyone else knew about them i'm sure they'd come to light pretty quickly.

someone says documents exist and people are crying out to see them
someone

says he's not american and blah blah blah.
to me it's utter tripe, to you it may be the truth
but untill you show me the proof and a reliable source i'll carry on taking it as tripe.

Actually they are saying the documents that prove him to be a USA citizen do not exist. They are saying that any documents that do exsist prove him not to be. In any event, the documents, if they exsist, are being kept from the people of the USA for some reason. That reason is unknown to me. Without seeing proof, me saying it is tripe is really tripe.

they are saying , who are saying, some right wing activist conspiracy theorist come idiot:

and by the way, thats what they say about him; so i decided to believe it.

Alexander Emerick Jones (born February 11, 1974) is an American talk radio host and filmmaker. His syndicated news/talk show The Alex Jones Show, based in Austin, Texas, airs via the Genesis Communication Network over 60 AM, FM, and shortwave radio stations across the United States and on the Internet. His websites include Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

Mainstream news sources have referred to him as right-wing,conservative,and a conspiracy theorist. Journalist Michelle Goldberg has stated in The New Republic that Jones represents "an old strain of American conservatism—isolationist, anti-Wall Street, paranoid about elite conspiracies—that last flowered during the John Birch Society’s heyday."

Jones sees himself as a libertarian, and rejects being described as a right-winger. He has also called himself a paleoconservative. In a promotional biography he is described as an "aggressive constitutionalist".

this fucker is the last person on earth i'd belive.

back to obamas b/certificate. weird how some say they've seen it yet you don't believe them. are you also saying his mum isn't american?

so lets get this straight.

you believe everyone who hasn't seen it because they say it doesn't exist. but disbelieve the people who have seen and swore to seeing it because ?

do you really believe his birth certificate wasn't checked, do you really believe his american citizenship wasn't checked? or are you saying they were checked and seen to be false or non existent?

and the proof you have for this is?

infowars? some right wing conservative conspiracy theorist. (it must be true because i've seen people saying thats what he is ) saying obama's not an american.

right. i guess i must be wrong then. if info wars says it, it must be true.

li still think the guy and his radio show come garbage can is tripe.

Mainstream, cut me some slack, lol, the guy travels all over the world and reports it as he see's it. Anyone that challenges the mainstream media slash government controlled by the banks gets this type of treatment.
I have seen no proof either way. If you have please by all means show me. I would really like to see it, really.
Obama will never get in for another term. The lack of physical proof on this matter as well as his consistant lies to the american people in my opinion have already defeted him and his party.
Tripe is tripe when proof is provided. I have yet to see any that tells me there is tripe involved here.

Lets not get into a fight here, gentlemen. Argue with the points made, not the people who make them.

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http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2009/07/b...-best.html

I dug this up on the "birther theory" ,through a very quick google search, and I quote:

Quote:Pres. Barack Obama has a birthday coming up, a week from Tuesday. We hope he takes the day off—or even the whole week, the briefest of respites from his busy schedule of truncating our liberties while exhausting both the public coffers and our patience. The president’s birthday comes to mind because we recently spent some time looking at a photograph of his birth certificate, being held by Joe Miller of Factcheck.org, who took the time to examine it. President Obama was born on August 4, 1961, at 7:24 p.m, in Honolulu County, Hawaii, on the island of Oahu. The serial number on his birth certificate is 010641. Baby Barack’s birth was not heralded, as some of his partisans have suggested, by a star in the east, but it was heralded by the Honolulu Star, as well as the Honolulu Advertiser, each of which published birth announcements for young Mr. Obama.

I don't understand what the fixation in his birth is. He is the President of the United States of America. Someone will have checked him for nationality before anyone ever considered doubting whether he was American.

And it could be true that some politicians are tied with their hands behind their back. But foremost it is a travesty of common sense, imo, to suggest that all politicians are blackmailed by a very small elitist group of people that "control the world".

Wake up, smell the coffee. If "they" (whoever they are, all I've been hearing is "they") had as much power as this article and others suggest, then the world would be a much much more unfair place.

i've read that one among others dan.

why i mention the conspiracy theorist is just that. he talks and peole believe him.
in this case it was about blackmail and homosexuality.
why on earth should someone have to declare they'r a homosexual, in this case we're are told, to stop blackmail. is homosexuality a crime now? i can think of many more things one can be blackmailed over worse than ones sexuality. but it's the sexuality they bring up because they think with their bigoted minds it's something dirty.

the same with obama. they the theorist who work for the right wing of consrvatism, they don't tell the truth they don't even want to tell the truth. all they want is to plant seeds of doubt. they don't have to show any proof of their accusations yet they scream for proof to prove them wrong.

thats why i mentioned the infowars guy. inuendo and gossip mongering and gobshite talk is where he makes his money. to him this is not only a personal imaginary conspiracy, he makes his money from spreading the shit.
i mention it because his is the radio station the op sited his first with as source.

i'm attacking the source as unreliable bullshit.
it seems out of the whole of the media this nut job is someone the op expects us to believe because it's someone he believes.

and i agree with you when you say;
If "they" (whoever they are, all I've been hearing is "they") had as much power as this article and others suggest, then the world would be a much much more unfair place.

(04-29-2010, 05:28 AM)SidewaysDan Wrote:  Lets not get into a fight here, gentlemen. Argue with the points made, not the people who make them.

--------------------

http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2009/07/b...-best.html

I dug this up on the "birther theory" ,through a very quick google search, and I quote:

Quote:Pres. Barack Obama has a birthday coming up, a week from Tuesday. We hope he takes the day off—or even the whole week, the briefest of respites from his busy schedule of truncating our liberties while exhausting both the public coffers and our patience. The president’s birthday comes to mind because we recently spent some time looking at a photograph of his birth certificate, being held by Joe Miller of Factcheck.org, who took the time to examine it. President Obama was born on August 4, 1961, at 7:24 p.m, in Honolulu County, Hawaii, on the island of Oahu. The serial number on his birth certificate is 010641. Baby Barack’s birth was not heralded, as some of his partisans have suggested, by a star in the east, but it was heralded by the Honolulu Star, as well as the Honolulu Advertiser, each of which published birth announcements for young Mr. Obama.

I don't understand what the fixation in his birth is. He is the President of the United States of America. Someone will have checked him for nationality before anyone ever considered doubting whether he was American.

And it could be true that some politicians are tied with their hands behind their back. But foremost it is a travesty of common sense, imo, to suggest that all politicians are blackmailed by a very small elitist group of people that "control the world".

Wake up, smell the coffee. If "they" (whoever they are, all I've been hearing is "they") had as much power as this article and others suggest, then the world would be a much much more unfair place.

Yes thats well known and unaccepted. Not by me personally because I still have seen no proof either way. As you say he is the president and being so as you say the certifacate should have been looked at and verified. If this is so then there should at the very least be a copy of the original and at best the original to view not a wallet sized rendition that can be had anywhere. Thats basicly what I see as the arguement. Not that I care. It was in an article I posted so now I can only comment on it from a different view to keep the discussion alive.
They, the Elite , their names can be found in this link.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bil...rticipants
Save a very few names they are all there.

A bunch of powerful people meeting does not mean they rule the World.Mostly American and European. Not exactly controlling the whole world. I don't see any of them putting any leverage on countries like China, Israel or Iran.

But disregarding, I do believe that some politicians can be easily black mailed due to many conditions. But as I've said it is impossible for every politician to be controlled by a huge secret organization.

(04-29-2010, 06:52 AM)SidewaysDan Wrote:  A bunch of powerful people meeting does not mean they rule the World.Mostly American and European. Not exactly controlling the whole world. I don't see any of them putting any leverage on countries like China, Israel or Iran.

But disregarding, I do believe that some politicians can be easily black mailed due to many conditions. But as I've said it is impossible for every politician to be controlled by a huge secret organization.

Thats your opinion, thanks for it. I on the other hand say it is as easy as a pyramid scheme, but that may be getting us a bit off topic though the two do connect at some point. Those three countries most certainly are connected by the way.

(04-29-2010, 06:28 AM)billy Wrote:  thats why i mentioned the infowars guy. inuendo and gossip mongering and gobshite talk is where he makes his money. to him this is not only a personal imaginary conspiracy, he makes his money from spreading the shit.
i mention it because his is the radio station the op sited his first with as source.

i'm attacking the source as unreliable bullshit.
it seems out of the whole of the media this nut job is someone the op expects us to believe because it's someone he believes.

I agree that I do not trust the source. But it is what we have. And we can speculate only so far.

Benny is entitled to his opinion and we are to ours. We can try to prove him wrong and vice-versa but we need reliable evidence.

I challenge anyone to find a good reliable source (ie a news website like Yahoo or the BBC) for what is mentioned in this article or something similar so that we can set some facts straight and continue this discussion.

Personally I have been tring to find something, anything that does not hold tones of racism in it but so far I can't. Even the news of the birther bill in Arizona, the people doing the write-ups seem to inject the racism card in there, very discouraging.

(04-29-2010, 07:32 AM)SidewaysDan Wrote:  

(04-29-2010, 06:28 AM)billy Wrote:  thats why i mentioned the infowars guy. inuendo and gossip mongering and gobshite talk is where he makes his money. to him this is not only a personal imaginary conspiracy, he makes his money from spreading the shit.
i mention it because his is the radio station the op sited his first with as source.

i'm attacking the source as unreliable bullshit.
it seems out of the whole of the media this nut job is someone the op expects us to believe because it's someone he believes.

I agree that I do not trust the source. But it is what we have. And we can speculate only so far.

Benny is entitled to his opinion and we are to ours. We can try to prove him wrong and vice-versa but we need reliable evidence.

I challenge anyone to find a good reliable source (ie a news website like Yahoo or the BBC) for what is mentioned in this article or something similar so that we can set some facts straight and continue this discussion.

i agree, it's why i say i don't think the source material is reliable. and as for proving anyone wrong, often a lie or a conspiracey theory can't be proven to be wring. they're set up that way.

it's starts out as;

so and so could be doing such and such, prove it's not so. how can one prove they;re not being blackmailed lmao.
so whilst source from info wars is all we have to say they are being blackmailed. i'll call that source tainted, stupid and irrelvant. if someone tells me it's what info wars said so it must be true, i'll point to more than one media channel that says its a dumpster site for rhetoric and conspiracy theories.

if as you say we get a reliable source, i may or may not change my opinion, whatever i won't change my opinion as to the source material already shown.

for me the real evidence on the birther thing is the fact he's the president.

the real evidence that everyone isn't blackmailed is the fact that it would be too hard a secret to keep.

the facts about those that be meeting for this or that is that they're supposed to meet. me you or anyone else aren't invited. we never will be.
but those that do meet have to meet. the captains of industry, banking, charity, even to some extent religion. people from all parties and creeds. they have to meet, if they didn't the government wouldn't be doing it's job.

and thats why i say the source we have and are being shown is tripe.

it makes out that what needs to happen doesn't need to happen, that these people don't need to meet.

and statements like, these three countries are connected is so ambiguous as to be laughable,

of course they're connected. we now live and work in a global age.

is iran making secret deals with china or the usa?
is iran making secret deals with Israel lmao.

and this is how it goes, you never get anything that has evidence, or reliable source. you get half truths. of course these three countries are connected, are they connected in a bond of elitism. no, and that an induendo infers that to be so i find ludicrous. and yes. please give some reasonable source to back the statement up.