Value  —from the Proverbs of Tharmas Erthona
 
Sometimes
we become so engrossed
in the how of a poem,
we completely fail to notice
if it says anything of value.
 
Erthona
 
©2015

you mean like my cat poem

i think it's a truism of sorts, specially on a site like this.

Billy wrote: "i think it's a truism of sorts, specially on a site like this."

That's why I let I let Tharmas write these, he's very big on "Truth."

"you mean like my cat poem "  

Surprisingly no, I wasn't thinking of your poem, per se. Although it does seem to apply, especially as to how it was critiqued. With the exception of the "plug" I don't believe much else was mentioned about the content. The focus was completely on the form, but I just considered your poem more of a form practice piece anyway. No, what I was thinking about was some poems I had read recently that relied completely on the form to cover over the completely deficient content and lack of meaning. Tharmas has another along these lines and I will post it shortly in missile-anus if deemed worthy. I rarely let Tharmas write as he is such a pedantic and dull fellow. He does not write poetry, just these parable things (horrible things).

dale      

(03-16-2015, 01:49 PM)Erthona Wrote:  Value  —from the Proverbs of Tharmas Erthona
 
Sometimes
we become so engrossed
in the how of a poem,
we completely fail to notice
if it says anything of value.
 
Erthona
 
©2015

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(03-17-2015, 02:32 AM)tectak Wrote:  

(03-16-2015, 01:49 PM)Erthona Wrote:  Value  —from the Proverbs of Tharmas Erthona
 
Sometimes
we become so engrossed
in the how of a poem,
we completely fail to notice
if it says anything of value.
 
Erthona
 
©2015

AAAAAARRRRRGH! We will be arguing about QUALITY next!
Knowing Dale is better than being married!

Seems I remember you saying you liked being married. I guess that was wrong and you really are just PW'd. Sad Tom. Be a man, give the nag the heave ho, not the here we go.

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Hey Tom, do you always have to copy everything up to that point just so you can put two lines under it? Just wondering.

(03-16-2015, 01:49 PM)Erthona Wrote:  Value  —from the Proverbs of Tharmas Erthona
 
Sometimes
we become so engrossed
in the how of a poem,
we completely fail to notice
if it says anything of value.
 
Erthona
 
©2015

I am both sympathetic and unsympathetic to your position, Tharmas.

On the one hand, one of the reasons I don't care for vignettes is that they don't say anything.  on the other hand a poem that gets caught up in "saying something" is like a fart joke - never really worth reading twice.

Well then I guess it is good that I did not say:

...we completely fail to notice if it is "saying something".

Thank you for you comments, have a blessed day

Tharmas

who the fuck is tharmus. and yeah. i sometimes miss what the poem is saying or trying to say simply because i look into it and not at it [does that make sense] i do think the poet oft has a hand in how i look the poem. the last but one i gave feedback on was light hearted and while i gave proper feedback also related as to how i saw it.

(03-17-2015, 11:37 AM)Erthona Wrote:  Seems I remember you saying you liked being married. I guess that was wrong and you really are just PW'd. Sad Tom. Be a man, give the nag the heave ho, not the here we go.

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Hey Tom, do you always have to copy everything up to that point just so you can put two lines under it? Just wondering.

I press the reply tit...though I have often had a wisdom-wonder.
While I am down here, it is "wander" when you perambulate, "wonder" when you use the wrong word...ahem.
Best,
Tom

I wander, or at least my mind does.

dale

(03-17-2015, 10:09 PM)tectak Wrote:  

(03-17-2015, 11:37 AM)Erthona Wrote:  Seems I remember you saying you liked being married. I guess that was wrong and you really are just PW'd. Sad Tom. Be a man, give the nag the heave ho, not the here we go.

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Hey Tom, do you always have to copy everything up to that point just so you can put two lines under it? Just wondering.

I press the reply tit...though I have often had a wisdom-wonder.
While I am down here, it is "wander" when you perambulate, "wonder" when you use the wrong word...ahem.
Best,
Tom

If you quote what you are responding to if that post is mod or self-deleted your reply still makes sense. I knew someone who did it on every post so that if you looked just at his post list it was clear what he was talking about.

Wander and wonder go hand in hand, if you never wander how will you find something to wonder about?

I like this game. I have one:

Value – Proverbs from the Pen of Shem

The truly rich are the ones that have loads of money.

(03-18-2015, 09:07 AM)shemthepenman Wrote:  I like this game. I have one:

Value – Proverbs from the Pen of Shem

The truly rich are the ones that have loads of money.

Or:

The truly rich are the ones that do not worry about money, whether they have it or not.

(03-18-2015, 09:18 AM)ellajam Wrote:  

(03-18-2015, 09:07 AM)shemthepenman Wrote:  I like this game. I have one:
Value – Proverbs from the Pen of Shem
The truly rich are the ones that have loads of money.

Or:
The truly rich are the ones that do not worry about money, whether they have it or not.

The poor have nothing -
the rich want.

(03-18-2015, 10:22 AM)shemthepenman Wrote:  That which we love is wasted on other people.

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we love the waist
on other people

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(03-18-2015, 10:22 AM)shemthepenman Wrote:  

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Children are like insane adults. Adults are like insane children.

 "Children are, like, insane," - Adults.
"Adults are, like, insane," - Children.

"The poor have nothing -
the rich want."

Seems love and happiness might be commodities the rich seem lacking in and that the poor, surprisingly have more of. Certainly money does not make one happy, in fact it often leads to the opposite.

"It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of the needle, than it is for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven." --the Bible somewhere

dale

(03-18-2015, 12:19 PM)Erthona Wrote:  "The poor have nothing -
the rich want."

Seems love and happiness might be commodities the rich seem lacking in and that the poor, surprisingly have more of. Certainly money does not make one happy, in fact it often leads to the opposite.

"It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of the needle, than it is for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven."  --the Bible somewhere

dale

If you read it as written, it is actually 2 statements.

1.  The poor have nothing.
2. The rich want.

It is irony.

Sorry, I did not see that almost non-existent hyphen (for me).

we are in debt from birth to grave
and sometimes beyond

we're birthed and die against our will
to feel better just take a pill,
you act just like hēdon's whore,
up and out, through the back door

dale