(03-06-2010, 04:08 PM)Benny2guns Wrote:  Your right ofcourse unless this is all for lack of a better word (I'm not sure the word actually exsists yet) a virtual digital reality.

Is this the conventional virtual reality or somehow converting real reality to a virtual digital form to make it easier to work with?

(03-06-2010, 04:24 PM)altezon Wrote:  

(03-06-2010, 04:08 PM)Benny2guns Wrote:  Your right ofcourse unless this is all for lack of a better word (I'm not sure the word actually exsists yet) a virtual digital reality.

Is this the conventional virtual reality or somehow converting real reality to a virtual digital form to make it easier to work with?

Consider....Everything in exsistance that we know and understand along with everything in exsistance that we as yet are unaware of are in fact virtual reality of a type that we as yet have no access to because and only because it was designed by an imortal life form in need of escape. Just consider it... If it were so then we in this form would in fact be an avatar, the human brain is in fact a biological computer which uses electricity to power it.

(03-06-2010, 02:25 PM)srijantje Wrote:  we're all on the same time,the trick is to step outside the timeline,wait ,step back in and you're in every bodys future and in your own past.so there you go

You mountain men in piggy costumes tend to confuse me.
Could you elaborate on that?

(03-06-2010, 02:55 PM)srijantje Wrote:  that is what is probably happening already,the trick is to notice it,you need a different frame of mind
[please comment if this makes any sense]

Sure, I'm open to the mystical. I have a book, An Experiment In Time, where the author recounts his use of lucid dreaming as a means of viewing future events. Of course, that's a far cry from time travel. What is it you're talking about, exactly?

(03-06-2010, 05:07 PM)Benny2guns Wrote:  

(03-06-2010, 04:24 PM)altezon Wrote:  

(03-06-2010, 04:08 PM)Benny2guns Wrote:  Your right ofcourse unless this is all for lack of a better word (I'm not sure the word actually exsists yet) a virtual digital reality.

Is this the conventional virtual reality or somehow converting real reality to a virtual digital form to make it easier to work with?

Consider....Everything in exsistance that we know and understand along with everything in exsistance that we as yet are unaware of are in fact virtual reality of a type that we as yet have no access to because and only because it was designed by an imortal life form in need of escape. Just consider it... If it were so then we in this form would in fact be an avatar, the human brain is in fact a biological computer which uses electricity to power it.

if that were the case wouldn't we as the "machine" know a lot more than we do? some of us can barely read write and count. Sj isn't even as bright as fuckin zx...no offence sj

(03-06-2010, 05:17 PM)billy Wrote:  

(03-06-2010, 05:07 PM)Benny2guns Wrote:  

(03-06-2010, 04:24 PM)altezon Wrote:  

(03-06-2010, 04:08 PM)Benny2guns Wrote:  Your right ofcourse unless this is all for lack of a better word (I'm not sure the word actually exsists yet) a virtual digital reality.

Is this the conventional virtual reality or somehow converting real reality to a virtual digital form to make it easier to work with?

Consider....Everything in exsistance that we know and understand along with everything in exsistance that we as yet are unaware of are in fact virtual reality of a type that we as yet have no access to because and only because it was designed by an imortal life form in need of escape. Just consider it... If it were so then we in this form would in fact be an avatar, the human brain is in fact a biological computer which uses electricity to power it.

if that were the case wouldn't we as the "machine" know a lot more than we do? some of us can barely read write and count. Sj isn't even as bright as fuckin zx...no offence sj

Well yes in fact you bring up a good point but what would be the point of escape if that escape was to the same level of intellect along with being aware of that escape?

(03-06-2010, 04:08 PM)Benny2guns Wrote:  Your right ofcourse unless this is all for lack of a better word (I'm not sure the word actually exsists yet) a virtual digital reality.

(03-06-2010, 04:24 PM)altezon Wrote:  Is this the conventional virtual reality or somehow converting real reality to a virtual digital form to make it easier to work with?

(03-06-2010, 05:07 PM)Benny2guns Wrote:  Consider....Everything in exsistance that we know and understand along with everything in exsistance that we as yet are unaware of are in fact virtual reality of a type that we as yet have no access to because and only because it was designed by an imortal life form in need of escape. Just consider it... If it were so then we in this form would in fact be an avatar, the human brain is in fact a biological computer which uses electricity to power it.

All right. Superbeings are using us for recreation by controlling our brains like computers. What we perceive as reality is simply the result of our programming. By avatar I assume you mean that the superbeings are living vicariously through us. Like the recent movie I didn't like, only the superbeings were merely the rich and powerful.

I think it's a universal question, "What if our perceptions aren't real?" Those of us who haven't thought of it yet first discover the question by reading philosophy. René Descartes, Immanuel Kant, and David Hume leap to mind for some reason. Robert Pirsig is good too -- a great storyteller.

All right. Superbeings are using us for recreation by controlling our brains like computers

No I mean that super beings created us and this reality, in essence we are us..the creators at play.

We are us. I think you're onto something there.

Ya I thought so myself but thanks for the confirm.

Changeing the past is a no no and we already know for the most part what we need to, looking ahead would be the shits in my opinion, knowing what will come to pass takes all the fun out of it.

(03-06-2010, 07:18 PM)bob5695 Wrote:  so there's no point in time-traveling?

As I see it no there is not. It would nullify the reason we are here in the first place. Thats not to say that the quest is not part and parcel of the program tho.

(03-07-2010, 10:23 AM)velvetfog Wrote:  Availability of time travel would tempt a lot of greedy folks to temporarily jump forward in time to peek at the winning lotto numbers.

While the political fanatics would want to go back in time to "tweak" past history their own way.

maybe that wouldn't work because they would be jumping time lines. the numbers might be different in the other time line.

(03-06-2010, 04:04 PM)billy Wrote:  imagine all the earths. are a millisecond apart time wise. yet they're all position in exactly the same way.

you wouldn't actually be traveling through time as such. your basically going up or down in an elevator and getting off a different floor.

Let's revive this sucker. Give me an example of an elevator trip someone might take so we can explore the consequences of it.

i get in the time lift on level 5billion and 2.
i go to level 2billion and 37.

because all the miltiverse is in synce. all aligned to exact same points in the same space, when i exit the lift im still in exactly the same spot as the one i left.

most floors the lift stops at is exactly the same in real life apart from the floor number. imaging all those floors in a one dimensional or even 0000.1 dimensional plane.

So how do you know you've gone anywhere/anywhen?

each of the billion to the power of 10 floors is also a different time on a new floor you you added to the lift shaft.

OK, you arranged to go to that time somehow. But why? What's different from the time you left?

I've killed the thread.

If time travel were indeed possible, ( I believe it is ) then it is traversable in two directions, forward and backward period. Now if this is so then everything that ever was has allready happened. Thats it there is no more.
That would mean ( to my mind ) that nothing new will occur from the perspective of a being on the outside of the time logs.
You can have as many shoots or layers as you wish but it won't change the fact that it has already happened.
What I want to know is how you think the main frame will react when one echo runs into another echo of the same string in the same bit space?

You're in accord with Augustine of Hippo, I think: God exists outside of time and sees all of it at once. Except for the computer references you keep making. I wish I understood how this is digital to you.

I'm not sure time even exists outside our imagination. We made it up, didn't we? If you believe in cause and effect, then the cause has to precede the effect in time. Or does it? Clocks and the like that are designed to run in one direction only tell us what we want to know and in the only way we want to hear it.

I don't believe in God man, lol, and yes it's tough to explain something that can't be explained. Would you agree or dissagree that the brain is a computer?