the internet, is it a super power

[billy]

do super powers go around doing nothing but killing?

please look up fifth column.
i said it's like a fifth column superpower.

Tell us what that is? Super power means super power to me.

A superpower is a state with a leading position in the international system and the ability to influence events and its own interests and project power on a worldwide scale to protect those interests; it is traditionally considered to be one step higher than a great power.

Alice Lyman Miller (Professor of National Security Affairs at the Naval Postgraduate School), defines a superpower as "a country that has the capacity to project dominating power and influence anywhere in the world, and sometimes, in more than one region of the globe at a time, and so may plausibly attain the status of global hegemon."[1]

i agree with the basics of it though nuclear power isn't mentioned.

fifth column;
A fifth column is a group of people who clandestinely undermine a larger group, such as a nation, from within, to the aid of an external enemy.

i think the net is a mixture of these two things.

So it's a conspiracy theory then? I'm not being a twat either but thats what it sounds like, a group that clandestinely undermine's from within.
If thats the case then yes it's not like one it would be one. JMO

no it's fact.

look at the iranian protests and how they used the net to get messages out. the same thing happened in myanmar. and darfur. it happened in other places.


obama used the net to basically get funded. never happened before but now it's happening in the philippines. and it will be commonplace.

and while people did and do conspire to use the net to undermine, it isn't the same as a conspiracy theory.

the internet is changing the face and youth of africa, parts of china and russia etc to name a few. the net is being used to educate the world. it's like has never before been seen. like global economics, the net will play a bigger and bigger part in the way countries act and react to market forces. to some extent the net already controls a large part of the worlds functions.

just switch it off for a month and watch the chaos that ensues.

[Benny2guns]

do super powers go around doing nothing but killing?

please look up fifth column.
i said it's like a fifth column superpower.

Tell us what that is? Super power means super power to me.

A superpower is a state with a leading position in the international system and the ability to influence events and its own interests and project power on a worldwide scale to protect those interests; it is traditionally considered to be one step higher than a great power.

Alice Lyman Miller (Professor of National Security Affairs at the Naval Postgraduate School), defines a superpower as "a country that has the capacity to project dominating power and influence anywhere in the world, and sometimes, in more than one region of the globe at a time, and so may plausibly attain the status of global hegemon."[1]

i agree with the basics of it though nuclear power isn't mentioned.

fifth column;
A fifth column is a group of people who clandestinely undermine a larger group, such as a nation, from within, to the aid of an external enemy.

i think the net is a mixture of these two things.

So it's a conspiracy theory then? I'm not being a twat either but thats what it sounds like, a group that clandestinely undermine's from within.
If thats the case then yes it's not like one it would be one. JMO

no it's fact.

look at the iranian protests and how they used the net to get messages out. the same thing happened in myanmar. and darfur. it happened in other places.


obama used the net to basically get funded. never happened before but now it's happening in the philippines. and it will be commonplace.

and while people did and do conspire to use the net to undermine, it isn't the same as a conspiracy theory.

the internet is changing the face and youth of africa, parts of china and russia etc to name a few. the net is being used to educate the world. it's like has never before been seen. like global economics, the net will play a bigger and bigger part in the way countries act and react to market forces. to some extent the net already controls a large part of the worlds functions.

just switch it off for a month and watch the chaos that ensues.

Well I don't know if it's a fact or not Bill but I don't think so. I hear alot of rumor and innuendo's on the topic but no real proof so to speak that I believe to be true to the extent you claim. Still a conspiracy theory as far as I can see. JMO

[Jackvinsly]

No I think it is wrong I don't believe in this sentence because Internet is working by human so the main point is human having a super power. But now in a day all the big country have to work done by the Internet so may be in future it will become a power.

[Truerenigma]

there's a program on the bbc. or it soon will be which tries to show the internet as a new super power. all the social networking. it's ability to pass government barriers and cultural divides etc.

so my questions are these; has the internet gotten too powerful for it's own good. can it be used as a tool against the public who use re; disinformation. can people make conspiracy theories seem more than they are, either for or against the powers that be.

personally i think the net as it is is brilliant. it's a good learning tool etc.
i do think it's slowly taking over from the usual media as a way of educating us to the so called rights and wrongs of society. (though not in a truthful way)

i think we could do with a few new protocols and laws to make it people safe etc. copyright laws. privacy laws. i do think it has become the new super power. it can be used to bring people together and also tear people apart. it's a great tool for sharing jmo.

so whats do you all thinks.

I think that if it is a superpower it may be just the one we need. It is a great way to share and access information and it doesn't have an opinion, and isn't interested in fighting over real estate. Is also a platform where people can resolve differences and educate themselves to understand others.

[Leanne]

And look at porn.

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And be porn.

[Truerenigma]

And look at porn.

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And be porn.

And share credit card information. And be an accomplice in the theft of my own identity.

[Leanne]

You don't have an identity. You're a figment. I'm not sure whose figment yet, but there are sausages involved.

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To be completely serious: Many moons ago at university, I wrote an essay analysing the internet in terms of the Communist Manifesto. Potentially, the internet is the greatest equaliser of all time -- but it is important to note that in order to be "equal" in cyberspace, people need to be "equally" capable of critical thinking, checking sources and using their own brains to decide whether something should be believed or whether it's just plain meme-based bollocks.

[Truerenigma]

You don't have an identity. You're a figment. I'm not sure whose figment yet, but there are sausages involved.

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To be completely serious: Many moons ago at university, I wrote an essay analysing the internet in terms of the Communist Manifesto. Potentially, the internet is the greatest equaliser of all time -- but it is important to note that in order to be "equal" in cyberspace, people need to be "equally" capable of critical thinking, checking sources and using their own brains to decide whether something should be believed or whether it's just plain meme-based bollocks.

Sounds like an interesting essay. I just sat through hours of A.E. Stallings on Futurism and the New Manifesto. (I wouldn't highly recommend it.)

And yeah - I agree (notice how I didn't say educate others).

[billy]

I think that if it is a superpower it may be just the one we need. It is a great way to share and access information and it doesn't have an opinion, and isn't interested in fighting over real estate. Is also a platform where people can resolve differences and educate themselves to understand others.

and post bad poetry and watch porn like leanne said.

[Truerenigma]

And look at food though you can't eat it.

I suppose the scary thing would be if some single governing entity tried to take jurisdiction over the it with placards "privacy protection" and email monitoring.

Wait a minute. If the Internet is a superpower, then is Google the President?

[ellajam]

And look at food though you can't eat it.

I suppose the scary thing would be if some single governing entity tried to take jurisdiction over the it with placards "privacy protection" and email monitoring.

Wait a minute. If the Internet is a superpower, then is Google the President?

And wiki VP of information/propaganda.

[Erthona]

Leanne wrote: "You don't have an identity. You're a figment."

As I'm a fictional character...


dali

[billy]

you're talking of china, or iran. some would think of the net as a worldwide state police system. google is it's lackey

And look at food though you can't eat it.

I suppose the scary thing would be if some single governing entity tried to take jurisdiction over the it with placards "privacy protection" and email monitoring.

Wait a minute. If the Internet is a superpower, then is Google the President?

[Truerenigma]

you're talking of china, or iran. some would think of the net as a worldwide state police system. google is it's lackey

And look at food though you can't eat it.

I suppose the scary thing would be if some single governing entity tried to take jurisdiction over the it with placards "privacy protection" and email monitoring.

Wait a minute. If the Internet is a superpower, then is Google the President?

oohh... that's spooky. He who controls the search controls the mind.

I think I follow. There are some interesting debates about personal privacy vs. the use of Internet info for policing, but who polices the police, and can even they be trusted?

resistance is futile. We are thralled, trapped and entrapped by the trappings.

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the Internet is evolution. soon we will all just be bytes of data.