Meaning
#1
What does a poem mean? It means no more or less than some initials carved into the bark of a tree. And if anyone needs to cut that tree down to use to warm their home, then who am I to complain?---If someone happened to see those initials, and think to themselves, “These are my initials, too. This must mean something to me.” Boy, are they in for a rude awakening.---Nothing means anything, unless you give it meaning. If a woman tells you she loves you, it doesn’t mean anything, if a dog bites you, it doesn’t mean anything. 2+2=4, and my childhood friend got decapitated in a car accident, and my fiancée loved me only until she started using drugs, and now she’s realized that she can equally love anyone that’s able to supply her with the drugs she needs, so only squares take monogamy seriously in this advanced society, so 2+2=4 means no more or less than I love you means I won’t destroy you if I don’t have to.
But a great poem supplies a great meaning for a great number of people, over a great amount of time. And 2+2=4 is infallible. And that lasts a good long time. Then 2x2=4 too, but that’s different, it takes it up a notch. That’s reality. But two loved ones here plus two loved ones gone equals zero loved ones left means something too. It means science and love both can be cruel realities.
So what does poetry mean? It means 2+2=4. And if that tree in your yard cut down to warm someone’s house contained the initials, the only substance you had left of that childhood friend decapitated in the car accident, then 2+2 still equals 4, the people that are still alive still have what it takes to warm their house and stay alive. Poetry means that things are as they are, no more, no less.
But a poem. A poem on its own is the death, the heat, the loss, the memory, and the resolve: that 2+2 might equal 4, but my poem doesn’t have to. My poem only has to say 2+2 = 2+2. And the question is the answer.
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#2
so it's not 3+1 then Big Grin
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#3
3+1 might = 31, if you're a symbolist. And 6-o = C, if you're a dadaist.
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#4
if i was the one who carved the initials, isn't that meaning enough for me?
and if others saw my initials and they craved their own didn't i give them something, even if just an idea. and i'm not even sure why i'm discussing this. Smile here i am trying to find meaning in a piece of prose or poetry trying to say there is no meaning except what we give it. so yeah it's a good insight and it does show that giving meaning to something, everything, is part of the human condition.
i'm not sure about the death, heat, loss etc or the maths but i think i see the intent so in a way it also contradicts itself. is taking meaning the same as giving meaning?
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#5
That question might be the answer. If the writer takes meaning from something that's happened, like a death or a tree cut down, and tries to give it a different meaning. And in that desperate moment when he feels the need to make a poem that's destined for a reader, a part of him might cling to the absurd faith that that future unknown reader can take his meaning, and through some indirect way in this world give a new meaning.
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#6
god yes, i think that happens more than we know. i also think the writer can give it a different reason without actually trying to. with a misplaced phrase a whole poem can change. it's like Chinese whispers sometimes.
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