The United States Constitution

[Benny2guns]

There will not be any new independent nations appearing on the North American continent in your lifetime Benny.
Don't worry about it.

Don't be so sure about that VF.

[Benny2guns]

It won't happen Benny.
Not even in Quebec.

And certainly not anywhere within the United States.

I honestly think it will and in my short life time. Real life events that I am privy to sudgest my thinking on the matter to be correct. This banter back and forth is nice but reality is going to jump up and bite alot of you in the ass. Don't say I did not say so.

[Benny2guns]

In the old days, they used to hang seditionists.

Thats for sure, great way to stop the truth from rolling straight over you.
Whats this the old days crap about? Are we forgetting homeland security and the patriot act?
Thats pretty much the way it is in Canada also.

[Benny2guns]

And with those laws in place, anti-government radical groups don't stand a chance.

Between the United States armed forces, the military reserves, the entire alphabet soup of U.S. federal law enforcement agencies, the individual states' national guards, and the various municipal police forces, the Americans have more than 2 million sworn men and woman under arms. Plus complete continental air superiority.

And every last one of them are human's with family's so we knock off the 50% of those that fall in line and then what?

[Benny2guns]

"We", Benny?
You and who else?

Figure off speech VF.

[Benny2guns]

I thought so.

The hosers in Irvingland won't be starting their own country any time soon.

And the United States of America is a solid constitutional machine that is likely to last longer than the Roman Empire did.
It won't fall apart like the Soviet Union did after 70 years.

This is not the void VF.

[billy]

i agree in thinking that the usa won't be starting another country on usa soil anytime in the near future.

[Benny2guns]

i agree in thinking that the usa won't be starting another country on usa soil anytime in the near future.

Actually they are it's called the North American Union
http://www.vivelecanada.ca/article/85324...od-by-2010
http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news...d34d6e4a96
http://www.canadianactionparty.ca/north-american-union
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=14965

[billy]

how is that starting a new country in america.

the usa has always been a country of immigrants hasn't it.

whats the point your making? without as you once told me. wiki and youtube stuff. in your own words?

[billy]

Hypothetically speaking, if Canada became part of the United States, then the U.S. would have 10 more states, 9 of which would almost always vote for the Democratic party. Such a union would permanently destroy the Republican party's chances to ever again be in charge of the U.S. federal government.

It will not happen in our lifetime.

hypothetically is right.

it won't happen in our life time.

hypothetically if i became a suicide bomber i'd need a parachute for a waistcoat.

and hypothetically that's not a revolution. it's a changing of boundaries. and it would still be the usa. the same country. it wouldn't be canada or the usa and canada. it would be the usa.

[billy]

The world needs a Canada that is sovereign and separate from the U.S.
All the old refugee trails out of the U.S. go north, to Canada.
Here in Calgary, where I live, we have 100,000 Americans in town who don't want to move back south.

i'd say thats par for the course where there's any long border. look at the mexicans in the usa. look at the eastern block countries in europe.

it won't make a country change sovereignty though.

[Benny2guns]

The world needs a Canada that is sovereign and separate from the U.S.
All the old refugee trails out of the U.S. go north, to Canada.
Here in Calgary, where I live, we have 100,000 Americans in town who don't want to move back south.

i'd say thats par for the course where there's any long border. look at the mexicans in the usa. look at the eastern block countries in europe.

it won't make a country change sovereignty though.

Now you have me really laughing my ass off. What in hell are you talking about. Thats exactly what it does for christs sake man. Who the hell are you anyway?

[billy]

and this has happened to the usa how many time in the last 200 years?

you really really think there will be a revolution in the usa in your life time? seriously. it's something i'd love to see but it won't happen.

it's happened in canada how many times. empires don't fall now they merely change. look at russia, it's still there even though countries succeeded from it. people can no longer afford the revolution. they're too busy fight the elitist traffic jams which were set up to occupy the masses for 4 hors a day thereby allowing them no time to revolt. the revolution and all who sail that merry ship are but the ghost of che brought about through youtube.

[Benny2guns]

and this has happened to the usa how many time in the last 200 years?

you really really think there will be a revolution in the usa in your life time? seriously. it's something i'd love to see but it won't happen.

it's happened in canada how many times. empires don't fall now they merely change. look at russia, it's still there even though countries succeeded from it. people can no longer afford the revolution. they're too busy fight the elitist traffic jams which were set up to occupy the masses for 4 hors a day thereby allowing them no time to revolt. the revolution and all who sail that merry ship are but the ghost of che brought about through youtube.

I know your hunting for something but I can't give it to you. We do not want a merger and neither do the people in the states. Mexico is in the same boat. They know this thats why the bastards sign and make deals in secret. I did not just fall off the damn turnip truck and I do not speak through my ass. You speak in another thread about being in support of the elite and in another you say you have a maid and in a country that is so poor, people starve to death to send their kids to school. That means you yourself have money and are in a position to access knowledge and a circle of people that are privy to facts that others are not. I am in the same position.

[billy]

i have a pc. i can read. i have no circle of friends as such.i'm a bit like the englishman i new york. i get my knowledge from where i find it. i know no one in the so-called elite. i may be well off by philippine standards but i'm not well off per say. i'm not privy to things that others are not.

as for speaking about the elite. i sad i support them to be facetious.
i have no problem with kids in school who are frequently playing truant being tagged. btw i'm pretty sure the tag is the sort that uses a strap.
but i'd accept it if it was an rfid as well. i'd accept all known pedophiles being fitted with an rfid too.

i'm not hunting for anything. i just can't see the revolution you speak of happening anytime in the near future.

[Benny2guns]

One of the negative aspects of the rise of the Internet, is that it has become much easier for all the delusional paranoids to get in touch with one another. Today there is a whole slew of conspiracy web sites that caters to them, and help them feel that their views are legitimate. I am left with the impression from reading this thread, that Benny has bought into these conspiracy theorist views of how the U.S. government functions. I doubt that any of the rest of us are likely to shake his beliefs in that regard.

There is no denying that there are many things wrong inside America. The public school systems are inferior to what you find in most western democracies. There is no universal health care coverage. The economic inequalities between rich and poor are at 3rd world levels. There has been ongoing illegal substance persecutions of the population going on for a century.

But the United States is a firm constitutional machine, and it is also a nation that has surpassed all others in opportunities, inventiveness and wealth generation. Because of this, it has attracted more immigrants than any other nation. The result is a loyal, peaceful population now numbering 300 million. Such a society is not on the verge of collapse.

Any attempted insurrection by any militant group in the United States will quickly be struck down by the authorities, and the captured surviving members are likely to get very long prison sentences.

One of the pet theories of the conspiracy addicts, is that there is a secret cabal of men working behind the scenes to implement "one world government". This paranoid fantasy is derived from a much discredited century old piece of anti-Semitic propaganda known as The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. It is, in my view, quite incredible that any intelligent and well educated person in this day and age will buy into that crap.

You are welcome to your opinion but do not attack me personally outside the sewer again VF MOD