Old thread - Abu nuwas, Leanne, Billy et al

[busker]

I followed a bot and stumbled upon this old thread: https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/thread-13304.html

That one’s locked, as all good threads should be, but more to the point: do we have more non English speaking - or preferably, non Western European - perspectives now?

I must say the Russians are right on top, and Leanne’s unfathomable preference for French I blame on her being from Queensland, rest her soul.
I find western literature quite tedious, too self contentedly navel gazing about Vienna and Athens, a link that is not founded on historical legitimacy except in the eyes of the deluded Franks. And social media has proved that there’s nothing to western civilisation any way, so why not dispense with its poetry as well.

How many poems and epics were recited and lost along the way, in the tens of thousands of years before Catalhoyuk?
Aboriginal Australia has a tradition of songs and song lines. The Highlanders of New Guinea have songs about life and death.

[rowens]

Western Culture's current three most celebrated genres seem to be the Conspiracy Theory, the Hit Piece and the Reaction Video. I like Reaction Videos, as I'm not used to seeing people's faces showing genuine interest or even feigned interest.

Folklore is what I aim for. To deflate myth and fairy tales and religion through pop culture, to abstract pop culture from its contexts, and to feed on a combination of uncodified local lore of any place I go and of the world where I may not go, including other universes, and personal experiences of things that aren't lore yet and hopefully never will be in the categorical or repeatable sense. And lean in nonhuman directions, like the waste of animals and marks on trees and unusual smells that don't originate in my room or body.

I like an art that looks like a witch or a wild animal or an alien has been there. Spots in the woods and towns and things.

And when it comes to words, maybe an oral tradition without tradition. A wandering bard without the bardic canon of lore. I prefer a both/and.