(01-17-2010, 09:41 AM)billy Wrote: so....does being able to tolerate pain show a person more evolved or less?
or does it simply show they can tolerate pain.
Imo it doesn't. It's a characteristic like for example having a big nose. If you have a big nose it doesn't mean you are less evolved
And the pain threshold varies with experience. If you've experienced more pain then your threshold will be higher. That's specific to you and has nothing to do with evolution. jmo  leepy:
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(01-17-2010, 10:39 AM)SidewaysDan Wrote: (01-17-2010, 09:41 AM)billy Wrote: so....does being able to tolerate pain show a person more evolved or less?
or does it simply show they can tolerate pain.
Imo it doesn't. It's a characteristic like for example having a big nose. If you have a big nose it doesn't mean you are less evolved 
And the pain threshold varies with experience. If you've experienced more pain then your threshold will be higher. That's specific to you and has nothing to do with evolution. jmo leepy: so is the consensus; men are more evolved but women are less stupid :p
No women are smarter because us men say they are. Any men out there care to differ in front of the women they plan on sleeping with this evening?
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i'm not that stupid
- the partially blind semi bald eagle
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So in fact we're all just bluffing, women and men?
Seeing as I now have time to smooth things over before my next close contact i'll say no again. Men are more evolved Not only because science at this time shows proof of it but because we were smart enough to treat women better in the first place. Your modern women is a throw back as they see better treatment from a male in alot of cases as sexist which is really not very advanced.
Maybe we should ask a woman, seeing as we are all men xD ?
(01-18-2010, 03:30 AM)velvetfog Wrote: Men's only claim to fame is that they have a "Y" chromosome.
Speak for yourself...you have a computer also so that helps you some what. Your a girl I know it now for sure. I always suspected.
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so vf is a girl. sj knows not to wind his woman up and benny's feeling fiesty cos he just had it of his woman.
we're all fucking wimps really. i think when they say more evolved it means we can adapt. we can cower and bullshit in order to get what we want :p.
i'd love a few woman to come and give us their point of view.
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Hmm, definitely don't think women are smarter. Men and women just have different competencies. Men (generally) are better at learning maths, and make good engineers. Women (generally) are better at learning languages, and make better communicators. Men are wired to focus. Women are wired to multitask.
I'd definitely have to disagree about men being "smart enough to treat women better"  . The feminist movement, where women fought for equal rights, was a long, hard, painful road; men pretty much had to be beat on the head with the idea before finally relenting. (And even then, there are still lots of patriarchal, chauvinistic societies up to today)
PS. If you can, try your hand at giving some of the others a bit of feedback. If you already have, thanks, can you do some more?
Women have inspired volumes of poetry, and have filled galleries of art, based solely on the way they smile, and how they fill each room with infinite grace and beauty. Now if women have the power to do that, then the answer should be obvious. That's at least my opinion because well, my girlfriend is watching me type this. Hey that's another reason!
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(01-18-2010, 12:25 PM)NadCloutier Wrote: Women have inspired volumes of poetry, and have filled galleries of art, based solely on the way they smile, and how they fill each room with infinite grace and beauty. Now if women have the power to do that, then the answer should be obvious. That's at least my opinion because well, my girlfriend is watching me type this. Hey that's another reason!
yep, if devious equaled evolved they'd win hands down 
that said it was the men who wrote about them.
(01-18-2010, 12:16 PM)addy Wrote: I'd definitely have to disagree about men being "smart enough to treat women better" . The feminist movement, where women fought for equal rights, was a long, hard, painful road; men pretty much had to be beat on the head with the idea before finally relenting. (And even then, there are still lots of patriarchal, chauvinistic societies up to today)
The thing that annoys me about feminists is their split attitude. "Women are better than men (since forever); But men are still supposed to let them go first and take the chair out.
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(01-18-2010, 12:16 PM)addy Wrote: I'd definitely have to disagree about men being "smart enough to treat women better" . The feminist movement, where women fought for equal rights, was a long, hard, painful road; men pretty much had to be beat on the head with the idea before finally relenting. (And even then, there are still lots of patriarchal, chauvinistic societies up to today)
yes but you're one of the female thingies aren't you
if we think about it. more evolved could actually be mean more stupid in some cases. seriously . some traits have evolved like the paralysis mechanism in those stupid goats. lets face how many stupid people are there in teh world. 70% maybe
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(01-19-2010, 11:05 AM)velvetfog Wrote: (01-18-2010, 08:18 AM)Benny2guns Wrote: Your a girl I know it now for sure. I always suspected. 
Your deductive powers are so amazing.
You are obviously male.
yo are both so much involved with each other you're both female
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@ Dan
I don't think it's feminists who say you have to hold a door open for women... in fact they're the ones who hate it. That said you're right, there really is a double standard out there. It stems from the fact that, as we were discussing, men and women are regarded as "different" and not really "equal". So for the most part, society is more protective of women (it has a lot to with women's roles as mothers and childbearers, thus the "save the women and children first" attitude). But the flipside is that society sees men as more capable (thus justifying the ceiling on women's wages as compared to men's). It's an awkward situation.
PS. If you can, try your hand at giving some of the others a bit of feedback. If you already have, thanks, can you do some more?
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(01-19-2010, 11:32 AM)addy Wrote: @ Dan
I don't think it's feminists who say you have to hold a door open for women... in fact they're the ones who hate it. That said you're right, there really is a double standard out there. It stems from the fact that, as we were discussing, men and women are regarded as "different" and not really "equal". So for the most part, society is more protective of women (it has a lot to with women's roles as mothers and childbearers, thus the "save the women and children first" attitude). But the flipside is that society sees men as more capable (thus justifying the ceiling on women's wages as compared to men's). It's an awkward situation.
i agree but we are more evolved. the scientist says we are so it must be true
all joking aside.
i think the scientists talking on a molecular level and smaller could be right. we may be, but where it counts, out in the world we're the same with different attributes. we'll hopefully have a long time sharing each others company before evolving into a self replicating life form
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(01-20-2010, 10:40 AM)velvetfog Wrote: (01-20-2010, 10:20 AM)billy Wrote: i agree but we are more evolved. the scientist says we are so it must be true 
Those would all be male scientists I bet.
probably.
though his wife may have forced him to say it.
you have to take us being more evolved with a pinch of slat i think because looking at myself and other men i confess i can't see how it's possible :p
Good thing you speek for you cause I know full well that I am for sure more advanced.
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(01-20-2010, 10:57 AM)Benny2guns Wrote: Good thing you speek for you cause I know full well that I am for sure more advanced.
actually i'm speaking on behalf of my partner
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