what denotes fame

[billy]

what denotes fame,

what is it that makes an artisan famous? be it poet artist sculptor. what makes the public want to view their works?
how do we show one person is more famous than another?

[RiverNotch]

clicks

[rowens]

Chicks?

I can understand that. I don't understand them. But I understand the concept.

[ellajam]

Fame can come in small circles: communities, universities, repeat winners of local cmpetions like state fairs and juried craft fairs. There's country wide fame and world wide fame, usually accomplished either by media exposure or financial valuation leading to exposure, or, in the best cases, creating something a lot of people would like to have in their homes. The toilet and electricity, for example. Oh, artisans, probably sales and exposure, sometimes a wonder that strikes most people as memorable.

[Xlateralus]

money.

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the guy that created the toilet ain’t famous, needs don’t make you famous, wants do.

[rowens]

I just realized what RiverNotch's comment meant.

[busker]

Although there is no agreed upon definition, I ike to think of fame as popularity percentage summed over time, where popularity percentage is the Share of qualifying people who have heard of someone.

[UselessBlueprint]

I'll fall between ella and rivernotch here.

Fame is (to me) about how widely-known someone or something is (for good or bad reasons, since we aren't specifically discussing infamy) among a specified audience. If no audience is specified, it is inclusive of all entities that can understand the concept of fame (perhaps a lazy definition, deal with it).

I believe and object can be famous, if it has a name.
I do not believe fame requires:
   that person become well-known in their lifetime,
   for their birth name, only among those who are well acquainted with the subject of their fame,
   only for work they have done outside of their professional environment (a famous sports player is paid for their sport),
   or that they are most famous for the subject in question (famous sportsman becomes more famous for a trial).

Now you've specifically asked about an artisan, but that does not mean fame must be considered among other artisans. No, fame here would include all sentient entities that can collectively conceptualize the idea of fame.

In order to be famous for a work of art, I believe the name of the creator must be known almost as much as the work itself.

Generally, most talented does not mean most famous. Fame can often times be bought, and it is still fame. Fame is about being widely-known by any specified audience - or else among an all inclusive audience.