well this site

[rowens]

Are we still alive, here? I don't know a lot of stuff that went on behind the scenes. And I don't want to. I'll never be stable. Never be stable enough. . . . But who are we letting in now? . . . I'd like to have just every random young so and so to come on again in the novice and so what. . . . Can WE go back to that?

[billy]

nothing has changed with the way we allow or garner newbs. not sure i want to remove the posting guidelines for the three main poetry forums.

[rowens]

Fine. Fine. I just don't see a lot of our Todds and Milos posting lately. And even Ellajam, and just was making sure I could get drunk for a month and not be considered someone who no longer cared. Cause I always care. All the time. Perhaps, obsessively.

[billy]

i'm glad you care and yep i would love milo tom and a few of the others to post; of course i would, but they don't and my life is too short to lament their truancy.

[rowens]

I've joined my local Jehovah's Witness church. And I have to wake up at 9 in the morning and go there. . . . . You might find that comical. But it's even more comical to me. I have to be up soon. . . . But I was saying how . . . We should let the site open to novices in the novice forum. . . . That's how I came onto the site, if you ignore my egotism, which I was born with. Because I didn't start in the Novice forum. I skipped.

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I find very little left to say in my life that isn't poetic. Maybe that's why the Jehovah's Witnesses have made a point to try and dry me out. If I stop going to their meetings, maybe I'll get famous, like the hot middle daughter named Mandy from that show Last Man Standing that I'm not allowed to watch Wednesdays and Thursdays on Chicago's WGN.

[rowens]

I don't want to relax the rules. I just don't want to wake up one day and see that the site has gone the way of MySpace and Crystal Pepsi. And most surely, I hope people don't compare US to that wasteland called Free For All Poetry. If that hellhole still exists. And also, if yall don't know already, I like the humor we had or have. The discussion prompts by way of the mighty tarot FOOL.

[rowens]

Also, I'd like to meet Tom.

[billy]

it would be a hard cross over to just open novice up and then try to get them to give decent feedback elsewhere before posting in a different forum

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to meet tom just tell him you have some rare mushrooms in your garden.

I don't want to relax the rules. I just don't want to wake up one day and see that the site has gone the way of MySpace and Crystal Pepsi. And most surely, I hope people don't compare US to that wasteland called Free For All Poetry. If that hellhole still exists. And also, if yall don't know already, I like the humor we had or have. The discussion prompts by way of the mighty tarot FOOL.

[rowens]

Oh, you mean Tecktak. I was making a joke based on the presumption that you misspelled Todd. Sorry, Tom.

[rowens]

Since I've been going to the Jehovah's Witness church, I can't celebrate Thanksgiving, or associate with anyone who does without risking being disfellowed. And since I don't really know anyone in the church, forgive me, Kingdom Hall very well, I've just been sitting here alone thinking about important things, like women I momentarily passed in public. And that got me on the subject again of what women want. Freud said he didn't know; but he's dead so it really doesn't matter. . . . This is my own ignorant male point of view again, but it just seems to me that most women are just so naturally delightful. All they have to do is show up, and a man will grovel over them. But I always feel like I have to accomplish something, and earn a woman's affection. I think there's a lot of confusion there. On my part, yes; but also in general. . . . The whole equality thing, workplace stuff. If a woman can accomplish the same thing as a man, there's damn little hope left that some of us will ever be able to impress a woman. Most of the women that I've impressed in my life were drunk and desperate. And that's another thing I have to worry about. If we ever have a falling out, who do you think the police are going to believe, Sexy Sadie or Ed Grimley?  

This might not seem to have much to do with the discussion previously, but it's the one with the Jehovah's Witnesses stuff. And haven't you ever heard of the poetic term 'digression'? . . .  And it's Thanksgiving. So I can't be the only person on the planet not celebrating.

[ellajam]

It doesn't seem healthy to live by rules that cut you off from companionship and a full stomach. Just my opinion, happy full moon.

[Tiger the Lion]

Since I've been going to the Jehovah's Witness church, I can't celebrate Thanksgiving, or associate with anyone who does without risking being disfellowed. And since I don't really know anyone in the church, forgive me, Kingdom Hall very well, I've just been sitting here alone thinking about important things, like women I momentarily passed in public. And that got me on the subject again of what women want. Freud said he didn't know; but he's dead so it really doesn't matter. . . . This is my own ignorant male point of view again, but it just seems to me that most women are just so naturally delightful. All they have to do is show up, and a man will grovel over them. But I always feel like I have to accomplish something, and earn a woman's affection. I think there's a lot of confusion there. On my part, yes; but also in general. . . . The whole equality thing, workplace stuff. If a woman can accomplish the same thing as a man, there's damn little hope left that some of us will ever be able to impress a woman. Most of the women that I've impressed in my life were drunk and desperate. And that's another thing I have to worry about. If we ever have a falling out, who do you think the police are going to believe, Sexy Sadie or Ed Grimley?  

This might not seem to have much to do with the discussion previously, but it's the one with the Jehovah's Witnesses stuff. And haven't you ever heard of the poetic term 'digression'? . . .  And it's Thanksgiving. So I can't be the only person on the planet not celebrating.

If you're bent on self-destruction, the Kingdom Hall is the perfect venue.

[billy]

catholic churches and evangelicals, you want to mingle then these are the two for you.

the idea isn't to impress women, the idea is to find one who wishes to impress you; that's if you wanna be loved. the truth of the matter is this. impressions are only that, and when we impress it's often only short term. be a human being and you won't have to impress anyone

Since I've been going to the Jehovah's Witness church, I can't celebrate Thanksgiving, or associate with anyone who does without risking being disfellowed. And since I don't really know anyone in the church, forgive me, Kingdom Hall very well, I've just been sitting here alone thinking about important things, like women I momentarily passed in public. And that got me on the subject again of what women want. Freud said he didn't know; but he's dead so it really doesn't matter. . . . This is my own ignorant male point of view again, but it just seems to me that most women are just so naturally delightful. All they have to do is show up, and a man will grovel over them. But I always feel like I have to accomplish something, and earn a woman's affection. I think there's a lot of confusion there. On my part, yes; but also in general. . . . The whole equality thing, workplace stuff. If a woman can accomplish the same thing as a man, there's damn little hope left that some of us will ever be able to impress a woman. Most of the women that I've impressed in my life were drunk and desperate. And that's another thing I have to worry about. If we ever have a falling out, who do you think the police are going to believe, Sexy Sadie or Ed Grimley?  

This might not seem to have much to do with the discussion previously, but it's the one with the Jehovah's Witnesses stuff. And haven't you ever heard of the poetic term 'digression'? . . .  And it's Thanksgiving. So I can't be the only person on the planet not celebrating.

[rowens]

It's really good practice, at the Kingdom Hall, suppressing my personality and natural inclinations and ideas and thoughts about things. Maybe it'll help me become more of a human being and less of a wisenheimer.

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It doesn't seem healthy to live by rules that cut you off from companionship and a full stomach. Just my opinion, happy full moon.

I used to live by rules that cut me off from companionship because of my full stomach.