copyrights and songs that sound just like other songs thread

[CRNDLSM]

Recently Facebook deleted a video I shared a year ago of myself playing an acoustic version of Safety Dance by men without hats, with a warning from universal music to remove any others.  With 200 friends and 40 views I thought I was putting on a free live show.  I posted probably 20 cover songs some requests with original instrumentation.  How do i know where to draw the line?  Is there a list of song lyrics you can't even recite giving proper credit?  Just to get it out there,

I wrote these lyrics with sophisticated beggar in mind by Roy harper, but im pretty sure no one would guess if I didn' say, and I'm pretty sure not enough was copied to give the credit.  But I'm all ears to discuss plagiarism in music and how much is too much.  Especially when nothing is really original anyway...

Sophisticated Beggar: Roy Harper




Open Mic: CRNDLSM

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This should prolly be moved to the music and media room sorry

[shemthepenman]

firstly, the whole “nothing is original” thing is a myth put about by unoriginal people.

it’s only really plagiarism if you take credit for something you didn’t do, surely? when it comes to what you can publish etc. that’s probably more to do with copyright and all rights reserved etc. basically, it’s not about you claiming originality, but simply not having permission to use the material. i don’t know much about it, but if i remember correctly most copyrights for music have something about public performance. i imagine posting on facebook would qualify as that.

but that’s just a logical mishmash of common sense and what i remember vaguely from wanting to use copyright material for a film i was making. i think most artists don’t give much of a fuck. but others are pricks. like “supertramp”. i posted “crime of the century” on youtube and my account got demonatised for like six months because they claimed copyright!!! fucking supertramp!!! i must have been the only person listening to them in the early 90s and this is how they repay me!!! wankers. but, still, absolutely brilliant track. Prince was notoriously unfindable on youtube and Dylan. basically anyone with a massive ego and shitty record company. it’s pleasing to note that there isn’t a smiths track out there that isn’t on youtube. well done.

[Mopkins]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfR9iY5y94s

this song cost the band big bucks for the fluted 'kookaburra sits in the old gum tree' bit, which they hadn't realised was still copyrighted big hit in oz

[shemthepenman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfR9iY5y94s

this song cost the band big bucks for the fluted 'kookaburra sits in the old gum tree' bit, which they hadn't realised was still copyrighted  big hit in oz

we used to sing that kookaburra song in the infants, in assembly. i wonder if the music teacher had to pay to play it on the piano for us to sing to? remember back in the old days when the teachers used to actually play live music and everyone belted out the hymns. now they probably just get aleksa to play it. we even sang some Dylan ones. Blowing in the Wind etc. and the other one. the Mr Tamborine Man one. that’s about a drug dealer, though, isn’t it? and then the local vicar would come to tell us a fable or a bible story. christ, it was boring. he died and then a younger vicar took his place... and was even more boring. but he had a wife and didn’t seem so molesty. so that was a bonus.

[Mopkins]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmcA9LIIXWw karma chameleon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oKPYe53h78 youd better shape up

noticed the melody is similar in these two but not quite, and theres nothing on the net sayng anything about it - so maybe no but still weird

[shemthepenman]

well, here's one, the occasional melody between scenes in friends (i noticed in season 6, but may have happened earlier--specifically episode 9 season 6 at about 18:58-ish to 18:54-ish on netflix time) is exactly "A Groovy Kind Of Love" by Toni Wine and Sager--the slower one performed by Phil Collins is the best version, here:



which is itself a rip off of this:

[rowens]

Me and my friend made a movie years ago, and we used music from Grandaddy among many other bands, and we got a message telling us Grandaddy was ok but the rest we were being warned about. I don't care about copyright laws, I use what I want, and if people don't like it they can sue me, and they'll be spending more than they get.

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Artists don't need to be protected. Copyright laws are balanced up on the notion that an artist deserves constant recognition and payment for what he's accomplished. I think he can just worry about accomplishing something else and forget about the thousands of people who are going to copy and use his work in their own ways anyway.

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We're lucky they don't copyright notes and chords, then no one could do anything. One day they might copyright genes and blood types, then people would be having sex just to birth babies they can sue.

[CRNDLSM]

I worked with a small group of women for two years to appreciate Taylor swift, then she came out with this gem

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Best skit on copyrights 

[CRNDLSM]

I just did a YouTube search for acoustic safety dance and there are so many covers for years with thousands of views. How, how could I be singled out?

[shemthepenman]

I just did a YouTube search for acoustic safety dance and there are so many covers for years with thousands of views.  How, how could I be singled out?

you’re a div?

[CRNDLSM]

Is that prison slang or html? I'm going to post a fresh one and face blockage

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you’re a div?
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I am the boxmnn so I'll accept it