the Koreans?

[srijantje]

and all the children are in school 18 hours a day,they're pretty mental in the south as well,although in another way.

[billy]

yeah, educations really big in s/korea.
if a war happens s/korea will grow even stronger due to aid etc,

a loss of population won't be too bad a thing. they'll have a willing workforce eager for western goods.
i think s/korea would come out of it pretty well.

[addy]

I have no idea how delusional N. korea's leadership is, though. I agree with the discussion that if a war breaks out N Korea might inflict some heavy damage but will ultimately be stomped to smithereens... but do they understand this? Or is the propaganda within that country so heavy that they actually think challenging S Korea and allies is a good idea?

[srijantje]

no,the leadership understands this,i'm sure

[mrmod]

I think the climax has passed and things may calm down for a bit.

[Duke Skymocker]

I think the climax has passed and things may calm down for a bit.

I think you're wrong.


North Korea threatens nuclear war
Last updated 01:59 14/12/2010

North Korea has warned that US-South Korean cooperation could bring a nuclear war to the region, as the South began artillery drills amid lingering tension nearly three weeks after the North's deadly shelling of a South Korean island.

The South's naval live-fire drills are scheduled to run Monday through Friday at 27 sites. The regularly scheduled exercises are getting special attention following a North Korean artillery attack on front-line Yeonpyeong Island that killed two South Korean marines and two civilians...

[addy]

Granted, N and S Korea relations have always rested on a rather hostile detente (with N Korea always agressively posturing)

Tension's still simmering, and in S Korea the anger has trickled down to a man-on-the-street level. My brother, who works in an english-language-instruction institute for S Koreans, says students are starting to write essays about wanting to train to become soldiers. If this is the prevailing mindset, then I won't be surprised if S Korea decides it won't tolerate the North any longer.

[Duke Skymocker]

interesting

[srijantje]

Granted, N and S Korea relations have always rested on a rather hostile detente (with N Korea always agressively posturing)

Tension's still simmering, and in S Korea the anger has trickled down to a man-on-the-street level. My brother, who works in an english-language-instruction institute for S Koreans, says students are starting to write essays about wanting to train to become soldiers. If this is the prevailing mindset, then I won't be surprised if S Korea decides it won't tolerate the North any longer.

so,the south becomes more north it seems

[srijantje]

yes,so in order to keep their peoples spirit up and let them think about other things than hunger and famine,they do some sabre rattling every now and then,don't forget,the leadership relys on the military,the soldiers are part of the same people that are indoctrinated,counts also in the south and in the rest of the world,that's why they don't like people publishing so called secret documents for example,they're control freaks,

[billy]

but they will retaliate should they be attacked again and more strongly. the time will come when not attacking is less beneficial.
once the usa leaves the area it wouldn't surprise me if n korea give the south another nip at the heels.

[Duke Skymocker]

Agreed, I'm a US citizen and have never heard any talk about pulling out of korea.
...pulling out is how accidents happen...

[mrmod]

I think the climax has passed and things may calm down for a bit.

I think you're wrong.


North Korea threatens nuclear war
Last updated 01:59 14/12/2010

North Korea has warned that US-South Korean cooperation could bring a nuclear war to the region, as the South began artillery drills amid lingering tension nearly three weeks after the North's deadly shelling of a South Korean island.

The South's naval live-fire drills are scheduled to run Monday through Friday at 27 sites. The regularly scheduled exercises are getting special attention following a North Korean artillery attack on front-line Yeonpyeong Island that killed two South Korean marines and two civilians...

I didn't say they were all going to be happy friends. I said it toned down. And yeah seems like they're just bragging to me. Let's hope I'm right.

[srijantje]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/...c-meltdown

[srijantje]

it would be interesting to read some diplomatic mail going between peking and pyong yang,but you're probably right

[mrmod]

I'm not sure there would be much mail. I'd be surprised if NK would say anything but by broadcasting on telly.

[billy]

i get a feel that the usa are trying to get the s koreans to step over the line or push the n koreans over the line so that they have another cause to fight.
the latest envoy says it's a genuine tinderbox situation out there, something you don't want where n korea is concerned. i really think things could escalate.
s korea are expanding their armed forces and more of them are joining up. i do think they're readying themselves for war.

[thethingy]

i get a feel that the usa are trying to get the s koreans to step over the line or push the n koreans over the line so that they have another cause to fight.
the latest envoy says it's a genuine tinderbox situation out there, something you don't want where n korea is concerned. i really think things could escalate.
s korea are expanding their armed forces and more of them are joining up. i do think they're readying themselves for war.

The US wont have the UK to help or probably Australia this time if things kick off, it would be interesting to see the US fight on there own for once, but I think the easiest thing to do would be to let nature take its course as whenever a situation where democracies and communism/dictators have been forced together democracy always trumps (Hong Kong/China, Germany/Russia, etc.) might take a generation but good prevails.

[billy]

i think the us will take part on it's own if others don't join in. japan would probably help though they don't have much of a military force as such. (they're hoping to enlarge it's navel fleet of subs from all accounts. ) but i do think it would help.

[thethingy]

i think the us will take part on it's own if others don't join in. japan would probably help though they don't have much of a military force as such. (they're hoping to enlarge it's navel fleet of subs from all accounts. ) but i do think it would help.

Over a million finely tuned Asians against the US and whoever's army would be a formidable force, I think the advantage would lie in the home side, nukes would be a no no as nuking North Korea would in effect be nuking the South and China so the US would just get it back at them, that would in effect be nuking Canada so the UK would nuke China and stuff would just get silly so it would likely be a traditional war should there be a war.