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Why does this glass haunt me?
Not only the glass but also what is in it.
I drink her.
Can you hear me?
The only light, where does it all come from?
Can you hear me?
Never listens.
Try my hardest not to.
Look at these hands.
Just look at them.
Very small.
Too small.
Wonder what this line means.
Looks a long one.
I took the bottle from the table and I filled up a glass.
The glass.
It wasn’t just some glass.
I’m sure there is no such thing.
No, wait a moment.
There is such a thing.
There must be.
So, I took the bottle and filled up the glass.
What was in the bottle?
I could see through the glass.
I could.
I saw straight through that glass.
That glass.
That.
Glass.
When it was filled up I couldn’t see through it anymore.
What was in the glass?
It used to be in the bottle.
But what used to be in the bottle?
What was in the glass.
Then.
In.
The.
Glass.
So what was in the bottle; now, that what was in the bottle was then in the glass.
My hands are so small.
Too small.
These are not the hands of a man.
These are little girls hands.
I could never punch anyone out.
My fingernails all bit down.
Just look at the mess I’ve made of these pretty little hands.
Dortmund and all its fundamentalism.
All it’s ichthyoid peoples resemble me.
I can clap my hands together.
 Clap! The clap.
O, don’t mention things like that.
Income tax.
Did you ever hear of that?
Income tax.
 It’s dark out there.
Do you know what dark is?
Look at it.
Think about it.
Do you see it?
Can you see it?
Of course you can.
I used to play golf back in the old days.
The days when old were the old days.
I always looked into that little hole where my ball would, most of the time, end up.
I looked into that hole and saw it all.
Saw it all at once.
I never wanted to come out of that hole and it lasted forever (Pause.
) until it stopped.
I stood on the tee just thinking about that hole.
O, my god, I just think of her hole.
The fairway was her neck or leg; the green, her mouth, her smile, her face.
Sometimes the tees were her face and sometimes the sky.
And right at the end, her hole.
I only remember it now.
I really try not to any more.
We keep saying any more.
I’m not normal, nor is she.
But she said that to me.
I’m not normal and then some clever sod says: “well, what is normal anyway.
” And then we say that’s the end of the matter.
We all feel better that normality exists as a subjective rather than an objective.
Why?
Why is that better?
It’s because it can be controlled.
It can be beaten down into insignificance.
Stepped on and trod on and squashed and made into something.
It helps, that’s why it’s better.
It helps.
Smelling a bit.
Didn’t notice before, but smelling a little bit.
I get used to it.
I wonder if I smell.
Me smelling some, ma.
Don’t much like being smelly.
Gots to get us a shower.
Water washes this smell right away.
If I do smell.
Can you smell me?
Do I smell?
What is smell anyway?
All these people.
I couldn’t punch anyone out.
Not with these small, stupid, little hands.
Not that I haven’t tried.
I’m always throwing them around.
I do need a shower.
Need to wash all this stink off.
I can’t be bothered.
What for?
Why should I?
Do you know what the best thing about life is?
Kung Fu!


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Why does this glass haunt me? Not only the glass but also what is in it. I drink her. Can you hear me? The only light , where does it all come from? Can you hear me? Never listens. Try my hardest not to. Look at these hands. Just look at them. Very small. Too small. Wonder what this line means. Looks a long one. I took the bottle from the table and I filled up a glass. The glass. It wasn’t just some glass. I’m sure there is no such thing. No, wait a moment. There is such a thing. There must be. So, I took the bottle and filled up the glass. What was in the bottle? I could see through the glass. I could. I saw straight through that glass. That glass. That. Glass. When it was filled up I couldn’t see through it anymore. What was in the glass? It used to be in the bottle. But what used to be in the bottle? What was in the glass. Then. In. The. Glass. So what was in the bottle; now, that what was in the bottle was then in the glass. My hands are so small. Too small. These are not the hands of a man. These are little girls hands. I could never punch anyone out. My fingernails all bit down. Just look at the mess I’ve made of these pretty little hands. Dortmund and all its fundamentalism. All it’s ichthyoid peoples resemble me. I can clap my hands together.  Clap! The clap. O, don’t mention things like that. Income tax. Did you ever hear of that? Income tax.  It’s dark out there. Do you know what dark is? Look at it. Think about it. Do you see it? Can you see it? Of course you can. I used to play golf back in the old days. The days when old were the old days. I always looked into that little hole where my ball would, most of the time, end up. I looked into that hole and saw it all. Saw it all at once. I never wanted to come out of that hole and it lasted forever (Pause.) until it stopped. I stood on the tee just thinking about that hole. O, my god, I just think of her hole. The fairway was her neck or leg; the green, her mouth, her smile, her face. Sometimes the tees were her face and sometimes the sky. And right at the end, her hole. I only remember it now. I really try not to anymore. We keep saying anymore. I’m not normal, nor is she. But she said that to me. I’m not normal and then some clever sod says: “well, what is normal anyway.” And then we say that’s the end of the matter. We all feel better that normality exists as a subjective rather than an objective. Why? Why is that better? It’s because it can be controlled. It can be beaten down into insignificance. Stepped on and trod on and squashed and made into something. It helps, that’s why it’s better. It helps. Smelling a bit. Didn’t notice before, but smelling a little bit. I get used to it. I wonder if I smell. Me smelling some, ma. Don’t much like being smelly. Gots to get us a shower. Water washes this smell right away. If I do smell. Can you smell me? Do I smell? What is smell anyway? All these people. I couldn’t punch anyone out. Not with these small, stupid, little hands. Not that I haven’t tried. I’m always throwing them around. I do need a shower. Need to wash all this stink off. I can’t be bothered. What for? Why should I? Do you know what the best thing about life is? Kung Fu!
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#2
Nice write. This could also be a vodka induced Trump ramble after the election.

I liked the stream of consciousness flitting from one connection to the next.
The secret of poetry is cruelty.--Jon Anderson
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#3
But 'normality exists as a subjective rather than an objective'? that's definitely not Trump. I mean, sure, he knows his words -- as in, the best word he knows is 'words'. Or maybe 'braggadocious'. I don't think this is Trump -- someone with the same manual image problems and the same feline fixation, sure, but a little smarter.
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#4
Donald Trump knows a lot of words, he knows all the best words. That's what he said in an interview after asked why he uses such coarse language in public. But everybody knows he's a liberal Democrat.
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#5
thanks for reading. i have to say, i hardly know who trump is other than he's a bit of a tit and likes pink floyd.
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#6
There were more posts on this last night. They must have got deleted. Trump, he's wanted to run for a long time, this may be his last chance. People don't go for third parties. And Clinton was a shoo in. I didn't see where your poem had anything to do with Trump either. But I'm an American, and an expert in professional wrestling, so I followed the trail where it had led. Because if you don't specify it, everything on the having to think about it side is going to be Trump related with Americans at least until Christmas specials start reairing to bring everybody back to their senses.
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#7
(10-29-2016, 06:32 AM)rowens Wrote:  There were more posts on this last night. They must have got deleted. Trump, he's wanted to run for a long time, this may be his last chance. People don't go for third parties. And Clinton was a shoo in. I didn't see where your poem had anything to do with Trump either. But I'm an American, and an expert in professional wrestling, so I followed the trail where it had led. Because if you don't specify it, everything on the having to think about it side is going to be Trump related with Americans at least until Christmas specials start reairing to bring everybody back to their senses.

fuck, don't talk to me about christmas. i got banned from driving for 20 months. i just want to go sleep until next year. can you iagine not driving through christmas!? and my car's sitting out there on my drive like this big depressing symbol of unattainable freedom.
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#8
I've never driven a vehicle. And I live in the redneck south. My whole town is a driveway, and I'm the only one over 16 and not in a wheelchair who has never driven a car. So, I don't know how it feels.
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#9
(10-29-2016, 06:54 AM)rowens Wrote:  I've never driven a vehicle. And I live in the redneck south. My whole town is a driveway, and I'm the only one over 16 and not in a wheelchair who has never driven a car. So, I don't know how it feels.

yeah, well it sucks. indescribable suckage. i wish i were dead. no. i wish the fucking copper that stopped me was dead. and his family. and everyone he knows. although, the lady police officer was had the perfect nose and was really smart and talked about waiting for godot and how she had studied drama. the gods can spare her.
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#10
All my friends are voting for Trump, because they're tired of being mocked by the left-wing artistic types they've been trying to impress since seventh grade or before. I'm not voting. But I'm going to do some sexual magic on the day after Election Day to try to tap into Ivanka Trump's Jewish roots. And I don't mean her hair. -- I just watch The Twilight Zone New Year's marathon, and The Charlie Brown Christmas Special. I focus on those two things and let the rest of the world do as it likes. Marilyn Manson was wrong; God's not in the TV, Santa Claus is.
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#11
" stupid, little hands."

If you have a little package, how are you going to plug the hole at the end of the fairway. It just seems so unfair.

A squirrel came upon an elephant stuck in a mud hole. He asks the elephant if he would like help getting out. The elephant replied in the affirmative. A few minutes later the squirrel came back driving his Mercedes (no, not the one on the site). He tossed a chain to the elephant which was attached to the bumper and pulled the elephant out.
A few weeks later the elephant sees this same squirrel, only this time the squirrel is stuck in the mud hole. The elephant asks the squirrel if he would like help getting out. The squirrel replied in the affirmative. The elephant tosses his dick out to the squirrel and tells him to grab on and then proceeds to pull him out of the mud hole.
The morale of the story is, if your dicks big enough, you don't need a Mercedes.

dale
How long after picking up the brush, the first masterpiece?

The goal is not to obfuscate that which is clear, but make clear that which isn't.
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#12
A golfer hit a hole in one on every shot, and at the end of the course, a genie came out of the hole to grant one wish.
"I wish I had a bigger dick" said the golfer.
"Okay" said the genie and click the man's penis grew.
Well the next day the penis kept growing.
And the day after that.
Soon the man was curling it up and wrapping it around his leg.
The length became truly unbearable, so the golfer went back to the course and played until he hit a hole in one on every hole again.
When he finally did, the genie came out and recognized the man, "so, you wish it went back to normal huh?"
The golfer replied, "no actually, could you give me longer legs?"
Peanut butter honey banana sandwiches
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#13
I'd re-format the fucker:
Why does this glass haunt me?
Not only the glass but also what is in it.
I drink her.
Can you hear me?
The only light, where does it all come from?
Can you hear me?
Never listens.
Try my hardest not to.
Look at these hands.
Just look at them.
Very small.
Too small.
Wonder what this line means.
Looks a long one.
I took the bottle from the table and I filled up a glass.
The glass.
It wasn’t just some glass.
I’m sure there is no such thing.
No, wait a moment.
There is such a thing.
There must be.
So, I took the bottle and filled up the glass.
What was in the bottle?
I could see through the glass.
I could.
I saw straight through that glass.
That glass.
That.
Glass.
When it was filled up I couldn’t see through it anymore.
What was in the glass?
It used to be in the bottle.
But what used to be in the bottle?
What was in the glass.
Then.
In.
The.
Glass.
So what was in the bottle; now, that what was in the bottle was then in the glass.
My hands are so small.
Too small.
These are not the hands of a man.
These are little girls hands.
I could never punch anyone out.
My fingernails all bit down.
Just look at the mess I’ve made of these pretty little hands.
Dortmund and all its fundamentalism.
All it’s ichthyoid peoples resemble me.
I can clap my hands together.
 Clap! The clap.
O, don’t mention things like that.
Income tax.
Did you ever hear of that?
Income tax.
 It’s dark out there.
Do you know what dark is?
Look at it.
Think about it.
Do you see it?
Can you see it?
Of course you can.
I used to play golf back in the old days.
The days when old were the old days.
I always looked into that little hole where my ball would, most of the time, end up.
I looked into that hole and saw it all.
Saw it all at once.
I never wanted to come out of that hole and it lasted forever (Pause.
) until it stopped.
I stood on the tee just thinking about that hole.
O, my god, I just think of her hole.
The fairway was her neck or leg; the green, her mouth, her smile, her face.
Sometimes the tees were her face and sometimes the sky.
And right at the end, her hole.
I only remember it now.
I really try not to anymore.
We keep saying anymore.
I’m not normal, nor is she.
But she said that to me.
I’m not normal and then some clever sod says: “well, what is normal anyway.
” And then we say that’s the end of the matter.
We all feel better that normality exists as a subjective rather than an objective.
Why?
Why is that better?
It’s because it can be controlled.
It can be beaten down into insignificance.
Stepped on and trod on and squashed and made into something.
It helps, that’s why it’s better.
It helps.
Smelling a bit.
Didn’t notice before, but smelling a little bit.
I get used to it.
I wonder if I smell.
Me smelling some, ma.
Don’t much like being smelly.
Gots to get us a shower.
Water washes this smell right away.
If I do smell.
Can you smell me?
Do I smell?
What is smell anyway?
All these people.
I couldn’t punch anyone out.
Not with these small, stupid, little hands.
Not that I haven’t tried.
I’m always throwing them around.
I do need a shower.
Need to wash all this stink off.
I can’t be bothered.
What for?
Why should I?
Do you know what the best thing about life is?
Kung Fu!
Three golfing buddies died in an auto accident and went to heaven.

Upon arrival, they noticed the most beautiful golf course they had ever seen. St. Peter told them they were welcome
to play the course, but he cautioned them about one rule: "Don't step on the ducks."

The men had blank expressions on their faces, and finally one of them said, "The ducks?"

"Yes," St. Peter Said. "There are millions of ducks walking around the golf course, and when one of them is stepped on,
he squawks; and then the one next to him squawks; and soon they're all raising hell and it really breaks the tranquility.
If you step on the ducks, you'll be punished."

The men start playing the course and within 15 minutes one of the guys stepped on a duck. The duck squawked,
and soon there was a deafening roar of ducks quacking.

St. Peter appeared with an extremely large toad and asked, "Who stepped on a duck?"

"I did," admitted one of the men. St. Peter immediately pulled out a pair of handcuffs and cuffed the man to the toad.
"I told you not to step on the ducks," he said. "Now you'll be handcuffed together for eternity."

The two other men were very cautious not to step on any ducks, but a couple of weeks later, one of them did. The quacks
were more deafening than before and within minutes St. Peter walked up with an even larger toad and cuffed the offender
to it.

"I told you not to step on the ducks," St. Peter said. "Now you'll be handcuffed together for eternity."

The third man was extremely careful. Some days he wouldn't even move for fear of nudging a duck. After three months of this,
he still hadn't stepped on a duck. St. Peter walked up to the man and had with him the most beautiful woman the man had ever
seen. St. Peter smiled and, without a word, handcuffed him to the beautiful woman and walked off.

The man, knowing that he would be handcuffed to this woman for eternity, let out a sigh and said, "What have I done to deserve this?"

The woman replied: "I don't know about you, but I stepped on a duck."
                                                                                                                a brightly colored fungus that grows in bark inclusions
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#14
(10-29-2016, 07:09 AM)shemthepenman Wrote:  
(10-29-2016, 06:54 AM)rowens Wrote:  I've never driven a vehicle. And I live in the redneck south. My whole town is a driveway, and I'm the only one over 16 and not in a wheelchair who has never driven a car. So, I don't know how it feels.

yeah, well it sucks. indescribable suckage. i wish i were dead. no. i wish the fucking copper that stopped me was dead. and his family. and everyone he knows. although, the lady police officer was had the perfect nose and was really smart and talked about waiting for godot and how she had studied drama. the gods can spare her.

Heaven spare all the beautiful officers and the ugly ones too. The corrupt ones, however, can go immediately to hell.

Are you looking for crit on this?
Meep meep.
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#15
(10-31-2016, 11:34 AM)Bueller Wrote:  
(10-29-2016, 07:09 AM)shemthepenman Wrote:  
(10-29-2016, 06:54 AM)rowens Wrote:  I've never driven a vehicle. And I live in the redneck south. My whole town is a driveway, and I'm the only one over 16 and not in a wheelchair who has never driven a car. So, I don't know how it feels.

yeah, well it sucks. indescribable suckage. i wish i were dead. no. i wish the fucking copper that stopped me was dead. and his family. and everyone he knows. although, the lady police officer was had the perfect nose and was really smart and talked about waiting for godot and how she had studied drama. the gods can spare her.

Heaven spare all the beautiful officers and the ugly ones too. The corrupt ones, however, can go immediately to hell.

Are you looking for crit on this?

you can crit it all you like. apart from Todd's kind words, i am not sure what it is, really. it is a stream of consciousness thing. . . but, i barely structured it, so it it more like automatic writing with a few linking ideas. but critique away.
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#16
(10-31-2016, 10:09 PM)shemthepenman Wrote:  
(10-31-2016, 11:34 AM)Bueller Wrote:  
(10-29-2016, 07:09 AM)shemthepenman Wrote:  yeah, well it sucks. indescribable suckage. i wish i were dead. no. i wish the fucking copper that stopped me was dead. and his family. and everyone he knows. although, the lady police officer was had the perfect nose and was really smart and talked about waiting for godot and how she had studied drama. the gods can spare her.

Heaven spare all the beautiful officers and the ugly ones too. The corrupt ones, however, can go immediately to hell.

Are you looking for crit on this?

you can crit it all you like. apart from Todd's kind words, i am not sure what it is, really. it is a stream of consciousness thing. . . but, i barely structured it, so it it more like automatic writing with a few linking ideas. but critique away.

Yeah, I think that the feeling of stream of consciousness works very well. The thread about the woman (the first three lines about the glass, the golf course) and about the speaker's perceived deficiencies (the fingernails, the hands, throwing punches) are the most compelling parts and they play very well off one another. I also think that you could build more on the confession to the mother -- the poem already has the feeling of a confession, and the direct confession feels like an extension of this. A direct confession to the woman would be very powerful as well.

Anyway, those parts are the wheat, and I would fashion the poem around them. The rest detracts, IMO.
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