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		Lovely first crit, gaslights, welcome to the Pen.   
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		Welcome gaslights -- that was a gorgeous first critique! Excellent readers are hard to find -- can't wait to read more from you.
	 
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		I concur with the above peoples... as long as your screen name doesn't augur acts of terror.
	 
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		hi gaslight and welcome,
 you already have the grasp of good feedback, looking forward to reading your poetry.
 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		Wow, thanks all! As a scientist by training, I've been apprehensive about diving in to the critiques. It's so nice to have reassurance there! I'm very much looking forward to posting my poetry, and plan to avoid terrorizing. Too much. Or at least on purpose. Really!
	 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		 (05-22-2017, 03:22 AM)thegaslights Wrote:  Wow, thanks all! As a scientist by training, I've been apprehensive about diving in to the critiques. It's so nice to have reassurance there! I'm very much looking forward to posting my poetry, and plan to avoid terrorizing. Too much. Or at least on purpose. Really!  Excellent, poetry needs more people with scientific training.  
Logical analysis is integral to critique, as far-too-many poems lack a logical structure. 
While linear narrative is totally unnecessary (none usually being the best choice); 
illogical connections, inaccurate meanings, and just plain old slushing-about are all too common.
 
And on the writing side of it, it's vital. For poems to communicate, the need to contain information 
(even if  encrypted). 
 
PigPen is one of the few places on the internet where your poems can get a peer (or better) revue.
 
Welcome, 
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		Hi thegaslights 
Welcome here to this strange place I haven't quite figured out all the way yet.  
What is a scientist by training?  
Please, no terror! hahaha Have a great day    
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		on gaslights behalf, his proxy so to speak; a scientist by training is someone who hasn't trained in any of the sciences. a coal man possibly or a seamstress.      (05-22-2017, 07:31 AM)nibbed Wrote:  Hi thegaslights
 Welcome here to this strange place I haven't quite figured out all the way yet.
 What is a scientist by training?
 Please, no terror! hahaha Have a great day
  
 
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		 (05-22-2017, 11:01 AM)billy Wrote:  on gaslights behalf, his proxy so to speak; a scientist by training is someone who hasn't trained in any of the sciences. a coal man possibly or a seamstress.
       @gaslight: billy is why no additional terror is required.
	 
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		 (05-22-2017, 11:14 AM)rayheinrich Wrote:   (05-22-2017, 11:01 AM)billy Wrote:  on gaslights behalf, his proxy so to speak; a scientist by training is someone who hasn't trained in any of the sciences. a coal man possibly or a seamstress.
  @gaslight: billy is why no additional terror is required.
   
I can see I'll have to choose my words carefully around here. That... makes sense! All in the spirit of good practice, I am absolutely sure     
signed warmly,  
Elise, PhD     
  (05-22-2017, 06:49 AM)rayheinrich Wrote:   (05-22-2017, 03:22 AM)thegaslights Wrote:  Wow, thanks all! As a scientist by training, I've been apprehensive about diving in to the critiques. It's so nice to have reassurance there! I'm very much looking forward to posting my poetry, and plan to avoid terrorizing. Too much. Or at least on purpose. Really! Excellent, poetry needs more people with scientific training.
 Logical analysis is integral to critique, as far-too-many poems lack a logical structure.
 While linear narrative is totally unnecessary (none usually being the best choice);
 illogical connections, inaccurate meanings, and just plain old slushing-about are all too common.
 
 And on the writing side of it, it's vital. For poems to communicate, the need to contain information
 (even if  encrypted).
 
 PigPen is one of the few places on the internet where your poems can get a peer (or better) revue.
 
 Welcome,
 Ray
 
 
 
 
All of this is lovely to hear, Ray. Thank you! To your last point, I shopped around a bit for forums before jumping in anywhere and this place is a clear winner. Thanks to all, particularly mods, for continuing to nurture such a gem!  
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		Hi Linda, I hope you enjoy the site.
	 
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		 (05-26-2017, 11:03 AM)poetryponderingspodcast Wrote:  Hey Poetry lovers,
 Just joined after coming back to writing after an incredibly long hiatus.
 
 Explore the posts a bit first and more from me later
 
 Linda
      Welcome to pigpen!
 
Being the nosy sort, when I saw your screen name poetryponderingspodcast, I googled it. 
Just to see if one existed, and if it did, to learn something about you. The word press screen  
came up saying it wasn't there anymore. Not that you have to say anything about it, none of  
my business really. But it did make me wonder if there was some sort of epiphany going on.
 
But as I said, none of my business.    
So, getting back... WELCOME TO PigPen, hope you find something fun and inspiring here. 
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		well, hello all the new users, linda and thegaslights! --quick question, how do i delete my old threads? (maybe this is the wrong thread for this type of question, sorry!) i've tried deleting the first post but apparently i'm not allowed. looking back on my old stuff is mildly disturbing and i'd rather be rid of it before i start properly lurking again
 
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		 (05-29-2017, 09:59 AM)fluorescent.43 Wrote:  well, hello all the new users, linda and thegaslights! --quick question, how do i delete my old threads? (maybe this is the wrong thread for this type of question, sorry!) i've tried deleting the first post but apparently i'm not allowed. looking back on my old stuff is mildly disturbing and i'd rather be rid of it before i start properly lurking again
 
once others have participated in the thread we don't allow deletions as that would delete others' work as well against their wishes.
	 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		ah i see. well i suppose it'll have to remain then.   
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		 (05-29-2017, 10:01 AM)fluorescent.43 Wrote:  ah i see. well i suppose it'll have to remain then.   What's life, if not laying down a trail of embarrassment?    
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		 (05-30-2017, 12:52 PM)rayheinrich Wrote:   (05-29-2017, 10:01 AM)fluorescent.43 Wrote:  ah i see. well i suppose it'll have to remain then.  What's life, if not laying down a trail of embarrassment?
  
That's only because we keep repeating the same crap. In this case we can take comfort in calling it growth.
	 
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		 (05-30-2017, 07:07 PM)ellajam Wrote:   (05-30-2017, 12:52 PM)rayheinrich Wrote:  That's only because we keep repeating the same crap. In this case we can take comfort in calling it growth. (05-29-2017, 10:01 AM)fluorescent.43 Wrote:  ah i see. well i suppose it'll have to remain then.  What's life, if not laying down a trail of embarrassment?
       I would have called it "losing my bathing suit when I dived into the pool", but "growth", ok I can go with that.
	 
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		 (05-30-2017, 09:19 PM)rayheinrich Wrote:   (05-30-2017, 07:07 PM)ellajam Wrote:   (05-30-2017, 12:52 PM)rayheinrich Wrote:  That's only because we keep repeating the same crap. In this case we can take comfort in calling it growth.What's life, if not laying down a trail of embarrassment?
  I would have called it "losing my bathing suit when I dived into the pool", but "growth", ok I can go with that.
   
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