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A Toast to the New Year
Now once again as in the past,
the time has come, but will not last,
so let us toss out all our fears,
and welcome in the coming year.
Let us leave no unturned stone,
of sins to others, now atone,
and leave our anger, hate and strife,
within the fold of coming night.
With a smile upon our face,
no matter that it seems misplaced,
lets pledge together this one thing,
only joy to others bring.
Dale B. Tisdale Winter 2001
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My, you've come a long way. 
I'd love to see one from the last year or two next to this.
Wishing you only sweet.
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Well that would be difficult as I no longer write poetry. I think this was one of the last ones I wrote before Erthona took over. He says I'm too old fashioned and just plain too old, as well as have little creativity, which is probably true. If I were to write a poem about New Years now, it would not be pretty, something like (and this is just off the top of my head):
Screw New Year.
Another year closer to the grave:
another year of pain and humiliation:
another year without hope of a better future,
nor a youthing type of salvation.
It all gets worse from here.
Another New Year to remind me
I no longer have a trim and muscular body
that can handle drinking and dancing all night;
no longer able flirt with girls and they reciprocate
instead of screaming and running away
(not that it matters, couldn't do much with one if I had her).
Screw your Happy New Year,
there's nothing happy about it for me,
nor does it seem new or the least complete.
Just a repeat of last year and the year before.
Trying to sleep and being kept awake
by the fireworks going off in the street
or somewhere close around.
Don't go wishing me Happy New Year;
here, there's no happiness to be found.
dale winter 2015
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I prefer the second one. Happy New Humbug. 
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That's my guy. Wishing you a year of newfound joy and laughter.
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You mean: Toast for the New Year. (as there is more than one) Nice image though. Makes me hungry as my toaster is broken 
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A toast to the new year:
Toast, man
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(01-02-2015, 11:42 AM)ellajam Wrote: A toast to the new year:
Toast, man
oh, dear
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Ah yes, "Powdered Toast Man," from Ren and Stimpy.
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(01-02-2015, 10:16 AM)Erthona Wrote: Well that would be difficult as I no longer write poetry. I think this was one of the last ones I wrote before Erthona took over(Persigian or what?). He says I'm too old fashioned and just plain too old, as well as have little creativity, which is probably true. If I were to write a poem about New Years now, it would not be pretty, something like (and this is just off the top of my head):
Screw New Year.
Another year closer to the grave:
another year of pain and humiliation:
another year without hope of a better future,
nor a youthing type of salvation.
It all gets worse from here.
Another New Year to remind me
I no longer have a trim and muscular body
that can handle drinking and dancing all night;
no longer able flirt with girls and they reciprocate
instead of screaming and running away
(not that it matters, couldn't do much with one if I had her).
Screw your Happy New Year,
there's nothing happy about it for me,
nor does it seem new or the least complete.
Just a repeat of last year and the year before.
Trying to sleep and being kept awake
by the fireworks going off in the street
or somewhere close around.
Don't go wishing me Happy New Year;
here, there's no happiness to be found.
dale winter 2015
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Persigian or what?
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Yeah I prefer the second one, the first reads like one of those generic messages they put inside those mass produced Christmas cards.
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ushaikh17,
A smile misplaced. Putting a smile on ones face despite the fact one does not feel like smiling. Thanks for commenting. Welcome to the site.
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Filíocht,
Ah the world has become so cynical.
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(01-03-2015, 12:58 AM)Erthona Wrote: Persigian or what?
Oh all right....Pirsigian....and is Erthona Phaedrus?
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No, if anyone is Phaedrus it is Dale, although he was never submerged by electroshock therapy (a totally barbaric treatment of someone, it is only slightly less disgusting than a frontal lobotomy) he more just agreed to step aside. I do agree with Pirsig in the idea that one cannot get to truth by reason alone. Atheist, Modernist, and Existentialist, hate the idea simply for that reason, as they cannot conceive of anything beyond themselves, to do so would destroy their conception of life. They have to denigrate the idea of an absolute truth as it is beyond their ability to define or control and as their worldview is based on fear and the need to control their environment, physical as well as mental, they can not let a question like that be left open, and of course the best decision is to deny its existence since it cannot be proved by reason or controlled. It just happens is not acceptable (this does not apply to all listed, as nothing is, well...absolute).
[I am not sure exactly what Pirsigians believe/discuss, and I do not count myself as one of them, but it seems like they are mainly rehashing a
debate that has been going on since the pre-socratics, basically the idea of esthetics in art that cannot be rationally explained, the same with absolute truths as apprehended through art and other ways, only they have taken it to things in general, or applying it to life in general.]
These days people are afraid to talk about spirituality for fear their fellows will think they are morons. Why have Modernist and all who fall under that banner felt the need to demonize such things as these. Of what are they so afraid? They seem to be as a "little boy whistling in the dark to keep his courage up." At some point I suspect there will be a rebellion against it, but it is fully entrenched at the moment just as conservative Christianity was until the 60's. I prefer neither, as both are caricatures. Actually both are very alike. One is a religion, the other acts like a religion. It takes little to put adherents of either to a point of frothy appeal, angry looks, and cruel words. As far as I am concerned, they both look the same.Oh well that's completely tangential.
This is at least twice you have brought this subject up, are you in love with all things Pirsig? Are you president of the local Pirsigians and Scotch club? I do think I shall go re-read some Plato since some of it has been nearly 40 years ago. In which one did he talk about Atlantis, was that the Republic. Being the wit that I am I made a miniature town of soft clay and brought it to my Philosophy class my first year at University as we were studying Plato at the time. I called it Play-do's Republic. Ah yes, I hear the collective groan, about the same reaction I got then.
I'm sorry, did I answer your question
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(01-05-2015, 08:31 AM)Erthona Wrote: No, if anyone is Phaedrus it is Dale, although he was never submerged by electroshock therapy (a totally barbaric treatment of someone, it is only slightly less disgusting than a frontal lobotomy) he more just agreed to step aside. I do agree with Pirsig in the idea that one cannot get to truth by reason alone. Atheist, Modernist, and Existentialist, hate the idea simply for that reason, as they cannot conceive of anything beyond themselves, to do so would destroy their conception of life. They have to denigrate the idea of an absolute truth as it is beyond their ability to define or control and as their worldview is based on fear and the need to control their environment, physical as well as mental, they can not let a question like that be left open, and of course the best decision is to deny its existence since it cannot be proved by reason or controlled. It just happens is not acceptable (this does not apply to all listed, as nothing is, well...absolute).
[I am not sure exactly what Pirsigians believe/discuss, and I do not count myself as one of them, but it seems like they are mainly rehashing a
debate that has been going on since the pre-socratics, basically the idea of esthetics in art that cannot be rationally explained, the same with absolute truths as apprehended through art and other ways, only they have taken it to things in general, or applying it to life in general.]
These days people are afraid to talk about spirituality for fear their fellows will think they are morons. Why have Modernist and all who fall under that banner felt the need to demonize such things as these. Of what are they so afraid? They seem to be as a "little boy whistling in the dark to keep his courage up." At some point I suspect there will be a rebellion against it, but it is fully entrenched at the moment just as conservative Christianity was until the 60's. I prefer neither, as both are caricatures. Actually both are very alike. One is a religion, the other acts like a religion. It takes little to put adherents of either to a point of frothy appeal, angry looks, and cruel words. As far as I am concerned, they both look the same.Oh well that's completely tangential.
This is at least twice you have brought this subject up, are you in love with all things Pirsig? Are you president of the local Pirsigians and Scotch club? I do think I shall go re-read some Plato since some of it has been nearly 40 years ago. In which one did he talk about Atlantis, was that the Republic. Being the wit that I am I made a miniature town of soft clay and brought it to my Philosophy class my first year at University as we were studying Plato at the time. I called it Play-do's Republic. Ah yes, I hear the collective groan, about the same reaction I got then.
I'm sorry, did I answer your question
Dale
You should be sorry. You did
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What will my punishment be? You'll make me stay in the bedroom an hour longer and put a legal aged female in with me, who of course I will not be able to catch because just standing up puts me out of breath, but as a consolation prize you will leave me a bottle of twenty years old unblended Scotch? Yes, I thought so
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