A wise woman’s thoughts about men
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A wise woman’s thoughts about men 
 
“Men are fools.
If a man is intelligent enough
he will recognize this about himself.
He will learn to act in such a way
so as not to appear to be a fool;
of course he still is a fool.
Men being fools is not a completely bad thing.
If men were not fools,
women would find little about them to love.
It is true that men strive to get better,
yet brute force is still their primary solution
to any problem.
If hitting it doesn’t work, hit it harder.
Men think women are irrational.”
 
 
--Sirtir Sarpanit circa 1273 CE Sufi Philosopher, Poet, Mystic, and Feminist.
 
 
–Erthona
 
 
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(12-12-2014, 05:55 PM)Erthona Wrote:  A wise woman’s thoughts about men 
 
“Men are fools.
If a man is intelligent enough
he will recognize this about himself.
He will learn to act in such a way
so as not to appear to be a fool;
of course he still is a fool.
Men being fools is not a completely bad thing.
If men were not fools,
women would find little about them to love.
It is true that men strive to get better,
yet brute force is still their primary solution
to any problem.
If hitting it doesn’t work, hit it harder.
Men think women are irrational.”
 
 
--Sirtir Sarpanit circa 1273 CE Sufi Philosopher, Poet, Mystic, and Feminist.
 
 
–Erthona
 
 
©2014

Call me a fool, but who wrote this?
I am in transit, Gloria.
More later,
tectak
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#3
Who are you talking to, my name isn't Gloria?

Dale
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#4
I'm a man and I actually really enjoyed this post.
I'm tired of everyone wearing the same ego./
They're like hoards of sheep, but a Mind is plain lethal./
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#5
This poem is pretty relevant and true . (coming from a guy)
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(12-12-2014, 05:55 PM)Erthona Wrote:  A wise woman’s thoughts about men 
 
“Men are fools.
If a man is intelligent enough
he will recognize this about himself.
He will learn to act in such a way
so as not to appear to be a fool;
of course he still is a fool.
Men being fools is not a completely bad thing. "A man being a fool is not....." would be better for grammar's sake.
If men were not fools,
women would find little about them to love. Love it a little more than a little
It is true that men strive to get better, "be better" would be better. Hysterical
yet brute force is still their primary solution
to any problem.
If hitting it doesn’t work, hit it harder. put that in quotes.
Men think women are irrational.” Yup
 
 
--Sirtir Sarpanit circa 1273 CE Sufi Philosopher, Poet, Mystic, and Feminist.
 
 
–Erthona
 
 
©2014
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Leah S.

Thanks again for your comments and I will probably act on two of them, however I think I will have to leave "get better" as that is what men try to do.

"Hey Billy Jo what's the matter with you?"
"Well Red, the wife said that I was lazy, but I told her I would get better!"
True to his word Billy Jo did get better, sure enough his laziness increased more with each passing day!

dale
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Love the sufist feminism.

Have to admit, though, I laughed more at tom calling you Gloria.

Or perhaps he meant transgendering instead of transit, and Gloria is his new name.

Either way, I am still laughing.
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Quote:Men being fools is not a completely bad thing. "A man being a fool is not....." would be better for grammar's sake.

You could also consider:

That men are fools is not completely a bad thing.
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Mel,

Gloria has never been my name in any noticeable way. I wear pants, sure sometimes they're a silk linen blend...

dale



Ellacarmella,

Have you read Rumi (I'm sure you have), especially Coleman Barks translations? I was going for Rumiesq, and a few other Sufi writings in English such as Idries Shah's Nasrudin stories. Whether that works or not...  Smile

Dale

Kingsoso,

Au contraire mon frere, I can claim no authorship here, just a pinky in the translation. Do not pay attention to the man behind the curtain Tongue

dale
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Voker101,

"I'm a man and I actually really enjoyed this post. "

...and aren't you glad? Having to squat to pee is totally unacceptable Smile

dale
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#11
Dale the paisley one,
I bet I've won more pissing contests than you have!
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don't you mean palsied?

bena wrote: "I bet I've won more pissing contests than you have!"

I sincerely doubt that as you have not even had the opportunity to be in as many as half of those I have been in. Plus, I have never lost a pissing contest except the first one as I was only two and did not understand the purpose of a pissing contest, but once I understood I never lost again. Besides you will never convince me that a girly can piss that far. Although there may be plenty of force, there is no concentration (in size of stream) to push the discharge to any great length. I've never seen a girly piss more than 5 feet, and I have known some who were quite eloquent in their discharge, but eloquence don't get you distance. Hell, a male baby can piss that far, albeit straight up. After I had put away a case of beer, but had yet to urinate, my neighbors garage caught on fire and I put it out. Although it is true I never pushed it beyond 20 feet, I did have a 3 inch stream, as volume is what is important in that situation. There use to be this fire exercise they did on July 4th on main street, where one fire team tried pushing the ball clear back to the opposite building using their fire hose, while the other team tried to do the same. One time the mayor asked me if I wanted to take a shot against the best team, as he knew me for a sturdy fellow. Well of course the outcome had already been decided, as it only took me five seconds to rocket the ball down the line to be embedded in the building where that the rope was tied. I know that's a bit slow, but I didn't want to humiliate the fire team (although they told me latter that they knew I would beat them handily, so there was no hard feelings), so I only used about 3/4's pressure against them. I must admit that those fifty pound metal balls were difficult to move as it is hard to keep ones stream directly in the center as they move, although the ball had more than enough force to move the full distance, by the time it had moved only 15 feet. I learned a hard lesson in another town where I was doing the same thing, but I was still prideful and wanting to flex my muscles for the girls. Well, the ball got going so fast it broke the sound barrier. The problem was it also broke every window within a mile radius, not to mention knocking off a big chunk of the building. I would relate to you some of my better exploits to show you just how strong I really am, but I am pressed for time.       

Of course it is just a fact of nature that men are physically superior than women when it comes to brute force, unless you get a female apex predator and have her play some scrawny little girlie man like Bubby Rigby, or whatever that little dick in the dirt girly assholes' name was. It's nothing against women, men just have an unfair advantage due to the great amount testosterone in their system. I mean look, women's upper level is only about 90 points, whereas the top limit for men can be past 900 points.
what all this has to do with pissing contests I can't remember, but then again I never claimed men were smarter than women.   

Junuh  Thumbsup
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What a great peice! I enjoyed reading this. You have an out look on men that is, they are fools. Although, I need ask one thing, would the women who fall in love with a fool, also be a fool? I mean, to submit to 'fools falling in love'. Would a woman be a fool for falling in love with a fool?

Anyway, great poem!
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Of course, anyone who falls in love turns his/her life over to a capricious and malevolent (male-volent) arbitrator of the person who is in love. Love is something you catch, like a virus. See poem below.

Dale

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The Humbler (Happy Ballet Times Daze)

“What fools these Human’s be”
when in love, yes I see,
but, the larger truth,
what greater fools when not,
spirits twisted and souls rot!
How pompous, vain,
and condescending,
only through Love’s sufferance,
might this wound be mending,
yet hide, when see healing descending,
until by Valentine’s pox laid low,
with a shot from Eros’ bow!
Oh, oh, OH!
It is madness, is it not?
It’s been so long that I’ve forgot,
I hope it fades away…
Yet, only does the grave,
fools,
from the foolish save!
Still...not all is sadness and sorrow,
for I shall be a grave fool on the morrow,
if I might a line from Mercutio borrow,
till then, anon,
for I am gone and done,
my bugled sword in baldric hung!
How long after picking up the brush, the first masterpiece?

The goal is not to obfuscate that which is clear, but make clear that which isn't.
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erthonamysharona,

what greater fools when not,
spirits twisted and souls rot!
Big Grin

I love the way the rhymes weave this together but feel as free as the piece itself.
Sweet read.
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#16
I don't know, Elvis said "Wise men say, only fools rush in". Maybe not being a fool is why I'm not married, and still happy, laying on the beach in the Bahamas, cuddling up to an island girl, while sipping on my Pina Colada.
Maybe as you say "being a fool is not a bad thing", to me this tells me that if I was a fool, I would attract more island girls? I'm a little confused, although I like you writing of what is usually true...
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#17
I got really confused reading this. Maybe it's because I'm just a girl. But you used the word fool way too much.
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Thank you ella my jam.

Thank you fr your comment Magnum.

Quote:Iluvkendrick wrote: " But you used the word fool way too much."

I plead unusual circumstances in my two uses of "fool." The first usage is in a quote of Robin Goodfellow from A Midsummer's Night's Dream (that is it would be if human were changed to mortal.)  I use the second "fool" as a counterpoint to the quote. Of course knowing the context of the allusion might help to clarify things. As reading is so out of fashion these days, one could watch the eponymous movie, starring Michelle Pfeiffer and Kevin Klein.   

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