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I know Eliot, I know Pound
saw the tree but not the sound
inspiration came to him
poetry his brutal whim
empathy Eliot did lack
hated Jews, he wrote them black
like the sick American slaves
spill the pyre, orange glaives
plants that did not come to them
now their souls do not ascend
instead, I transfer it to me
process it, then we see
10,000 hours of brutal study
sharp the pen, paper ugly:
"Son of man, do not say or guess
For you are but a heap of broken images"
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Cowards!
Debate me about Eliot. I fucking dare you!
Hope you squash me into a pancake.
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I won't debate you. I am that heretic poet who actually despises almost everything that both Pound and Eliot ever wrote (yes, Prufrock, I'm talking about you and all your wanky literary name-dropping!).
It's not the lack of empathy that bugs me so much as... well actually, now that you point it out, it probably is. I find them both incredibly sterile, boxed up, cold, and looking down their noses at everyone else in the world. They probably just remind me too much of my mother...
It could be worse
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I'm mad at myself for studying Eliot as I did in school.
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Study Larkin instead. He says way cooler things.
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I want to also thank someone who said "10,000 hours of studying poetry does not make you an effective poet" or something of that nature.
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 Honestly, poetry shouldn't be "studied". It should be read, absorbed, appreciated, hated, revered, saved for alone time in the toilet... anything but "studied". Sure, study the mechanics, study meter, study the way that sounds join together to create mood and moments -- but poetry needs to just be. Academia has stolen the poetry from poems.
And I say that as a teacher and an academic.
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Here! Here!
I listen to money singing. It’s like looking down
From long french windows at a provincial town,
The slums, the canal, the churches ornate and mad
In the evening sun. It is intensely sad.
Larkin.
let's see Pound or Eliot try and write that!
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(10-06-2014, 06:02 AM)Leanne Wrote: Honestly, poetry shouldn't be "studied". It should be read, absorbed, appreciated, hated, revered, saved for alone time in the toilet... anything but "studied". Sure, study the mechanics, study meter, study the way that sounds join together to create mood and moments -- but poetry needs to just be. Academia has stolen the poetry from poems.
And I say that as a teacher and an academic.
In the Academy it isn't about what's written anymore. It's about Kultural Kapital. *gag*
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no words came
NO WORDS CAME!
You guys make me want to go back to school. No, wait. I am in school. If for whatever reason I leave this site, know that I am truly dead but do not mourn me. Burn my body in a pyre, 4-5 hours after taking a correct dose of microscopic crystalline formations (poly-drug it up too, this is a festival), and just watch and listen to the pop and crack of the flame licks.
The point is not that one graduated or didn't graduate in attending a top 10 or top 15 or top 20 or top 10,000 school. It's that one was accepted there in the first place, and could have gone anywhere they wanted.
Burgeoning potential like the peach pit, and what the pit contains within.
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(10-05-2014, 06:43 AM)maximumjake Wrote: I know Eliot, I know Pound
saw the tree but not the sound
inspiration came to him
poetry his brutal whim
empathy Eliot did lack yoda also did like
hated Jews, he wrote them black
like the sick American slaves
spill the pyre, orange glaives
plants that did not come to them
now their souls do not ascend
instead, I transfer it to me
process it, then we see
10,000 hours of brutal study
sharp the pen, paper ugly:
"Son of man, do not say or guess
For you are but a heap of broken images"
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10-06-2014, 11:51 PM
(This post was last modified: 10-09-2014, 10:18 PM by billy.)
stearns or george?
can you explain to me why George is a better man than T.S?
(10-06-2014, 05:28 AM)maximumjake Wrote: Cowards!
Debate me about Eliot. I fucking dare you!
Hope you squash me into a pancake.
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I can't.
but I can empathize why Yoda exiled himself on a swamp planet such as Dagobah.
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because she's had a lot more balls than he has 
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