Violence; does it work?

[billy]

i can see violence as a means to an ends and agree that it does often gets results. i won't argue the morality of violence though. i did at one time in my live enjoy violence, not the hurting but the taking part. mainly through fighting or resisting someone else. i liked and still do like the gladiatorial side of violence. not keen on bullying but again, it would i suppose garner results, how long for, i have no idea. as for hurting animals. needlessly doesn't get the best results, most animal trainers will attest to the fact, though there are some nasty bastards out there. i have no problem with slaughtering animals for food and see no reason why we shouldn't utilise their skins as well as every other part of them. i'd say it's much better to eat domesticated animals than wipe out any more species than we already have. i think marital violence gets the least results as sooner or later the aggressor usually ends up on the losing side. i do believe violence through is sometimes inevitable, and gets results but at what cost? often the price paid isn't vomensurate wuth the gains, often we jump in to late or too soon.