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[abu nuwas]

usa was backing sadam all the way in that war,providing him with satelite pics etc.[accounts for complicity]
after the first gulf war thousands of children died due to lack of medicine because of sanctions

You were not referring to the actions of the USA down the years. You were saying that George Bush --and I suppose you mean Bush Jnr-- was responsible for more deaths than Saddam and the others combined. He was still in short pants when the Iraq-Iran war ended, so whatever you may say about the US, it cannot apply to him.

I often hear much righteous talk about how bad the US and UK are, for selling arms. I am not sure what the implication is: that no-one should make arms, sell arms, or what? Would it make any difference at all if the US/UK desisted? Don't you think the Chinese would have been as willing to sell their Silkworm missiles then, as they were to Saddam later? In the real world, countries look at their neighbours, and do not trust them, and want to get arms to deter war or invasion. Sooner or later, that happens. You might as well blame the bloke who sells them orange juice.

I also hear much simplistic, but popular, talk of oil. 'They don't invade Zimbabwe -- no oil!' (Round of applause). But there isn't any oil in Afghanistan -- which seems to torpedo all that. But this has drifted from the topic.