Glitter and Glee
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Billy Wrote:there was nothing sly about it jack it's what i felt.
You said: "Do you see what you're doing jack you say lets keep this out of the sewer as though what i say isn't valid. a large percentage of the population think mj did those terrible things. i'm one of them, i accept that you're not and thats your choice. a choice i won't mock." That isn't how you feel, Billy. That borders on lying.

Billy Wrote:sorry jack but take it from me, dad does know you're gay and prob has done for quiet a while. i don't live with you and i knew. even before you said so yourself. maybe he was saying the gay nasty stuff to try and stop you being who you were. parents can be like that.
I should be offended by that, but really I'm just amused. How did you know I was gay before I said so myself? You never heard me speak or witnessed how I act before you cottoned on. Was there a certain effeminate flourish to the style of my comments? Don't be silly. Furthermore, I never told you I was gay, you simply knew I was from my poetry, in which I sometimes talk about fucking guys. My dad hasn't read those poems.

Billy Wrote:so a light entertainment program isn't art? it's there to make money jack, the same as a painting or a book. all artists want to make a living from their work, they succeed, because we don't like it we say it isn't art. it's there to sell ad space and all the other commercial shit as well but i'll tell you this jack, more people think it art than they do a poem or a fantastic painting by monet. it's art jack it's definitely someones art and will be seen to be so in the future.
You've just proved my point. To some people Glee is more art than a poem or a painting. Hence they take it seriously. Hence they see it as more than light entertainment. Hence they perpetuate the shit it teaches. I don't recognise it as art because to me it exists for the sole purpose of accomadating the largest demographic possible. It's malleable to whatever's trendy and popular at the time, whereas in my opinion art is solid. Locksley Hall by Tennyson hasn't been edited over the years to match the changing culture.

Regarding your thoughts on Indiana Jones and other types of light entertainment, I still feel as though it can be explained by my previous argument that they present themselves on their own terms as light entertainment. Will Glee playing a Gary Glitter song have immediate negative effect on the world with frightening scale? No, of course not. No one programme ever could, regardless its intentions. But it can influence a growing attitude among young people.
"We believe that we invent symbols. The truth is that they invent us; we are their creatures, shaped by their hard, defining edges." - Gene Wolfe
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Glitter and Glee - by heslopian - 04-19-2011, 07:48 AM
RE: Glitter and Glee - by billy - 04-19-2011, 10:21 AM
RE: Glitter and Glee - by heslopian - 04-19-2011, 10:37 AM
RE: Glitter and Glee - by billy - 04-19-2011, 10:47 AM
RE: Glitter and Glee - by heslopian - 04-19-2011, 10:50 AM
RE: Glitter and Glee - by billy - 04-20-2011, 11:12 AM
RE: Glitter and Glee - by heslopian - 04-21-2011, 04:02 AM
RE: Glitter and Glee - by addy - 04-20-2011, 07:54 PM
RE: Glitter and Glee - by billy - 04-22-2011, 12:36 PM
RE: Glitter and Glee - by heslopian - 04-22-2011, 01:32 PM
RE: Glitter and Glee - by billy - 04-25-2011, 02:09 PM
RE: Glitter and Glee - by addy - 04-24-2011, 12:19 PM
RE: Glitter and Glee - by billy - 04-25-2011, 12:23 PM
RE: Glitter and Glee - by heslopian - 04-25-2011, 01:13 PM
RE: Glitter and Glee - by billy - 04-25-2011, 01:54 PM
RE: Glitter and Glee - by heslopian - 04-25-2011, 04:34 PM
RE: Glitter and Glee - by billy - 04-25-2011, 05:42 PM
RE: Glitter and Glee - by heslopian - 04-26-2011, 05:39 AM
RE: Glitter and Glee - by billy - 04-26-2011, 06:19 AM
RE: Glitter and Glee - by heslopian - 04-26-2011, 07:17 AM
RE: Glitter and Glee - by billy - 04-26-2011, 08:24 AM



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