Glitter and Glee

[billy]

In response to your comment about Michael Jackson - Billy, I resent you making sly assumptions about what I do and don't believe.

there was nothing sly about it jack it's what i felt.

I don't believe that, no. Kids base their attitudes on what they're exposed to. I don't think we're born into this world with certain principles and ideas we carry through life from the moment we leave the womb.

if that's the case why are we only talking about glee club? almost every program on the box can have an adverse effect, anything ranging from songs of praise to hello hello, my kids were exposed to lots of horror movies, the also watched people dressed up as dogs, they never actually believed dogs could talk or that roger rabbet was banging some women with huge tits. unless of course kids can differentiate between whats real and what's garbage make believe. i also take it the parents who watch glee as well have their heads so far up their bottoms that they to believe bi sexuality doesn't exist? take it from me, if they're old enough to question whether or not they're bisexual. they're old enough to know it exists.

Yes but those shows you mention don't (or shouldn't) advocate violence. Glee claims to reflect reality and encourage useful morals which our children should adopt. Indiana Jones does not. It presents itself on its own terms as light entertainment.

so what, we get rid of anything that depicts violence, shit like poetry and books as well. what glee claims is irrelevant, its light entertainment thats what it comes under thats it's heading, you can't say indi jones presents itself as light entertainment and then dismiss a program that is factually light entertainment as being so. indiana jones teaches us that we can legally break laws, kidnap children and do anything without being killed. it's escapism not light entertainment. though it could be classed as the latter at a push. it also teaches out kids that god kills people who are evil and saves those who are good. either way, it projects what can and can't be supposedly done, again you can't validly say glee corrupts kids because of what it shows the kids and indi doesn't. they're still exposed to indi.
another point is this, you say or infer kids know indi was make believe, if thats the case they should also realise glee is not based on actual reality as well. no matter what the programmers may say. the same goes for dan brown books specially the one where he states this book is real and truthful. i suppose none of these kids ask their parents either, or their parents have no input.

My father doesn't know I'm gay. As a child however he talked sometimes about how gays were evil scum and paedophiles and it stuck with me. I turned out not believing it, mostly I think because I became gay myself, and realised I wasn't evil or perverted, but his words still tortured me for years. It was the impetus behind the breakdown I describe in "Secrets." I was depressed and suicidal because a source I trusted (unwittingly) told me I was wrong, and I believe the same thing could happen if kids are allowed to perpetuate the myth that bisexuality doesn't exist.

sorry jack but take it from me, dad does know you're gay and prob has done for quiet a while. i don't live with you and i knew. even before you said so yourself. maybe he was saying the gay nasty stuff to try and stop you being who you were. parents can be like that.

perpetuate the myth? the main word of my dismay being perpetuate.
how come this uproar isn't concerted against islam, the roman catholic church, the and other religious entities, glee says bisexuality doesn't exist and the world falls down.

If Glee was art I'd agree with you. Then I wouldn't mind it saying whatever the hell it likes. The whole point of art is that it exists outside societal restraints on what we can and can't say. But Glee isn't art. It's light entertainment posing as art so it can force feed an impressionable generation crap.

so a light entertainment program isn't art? it's there to make money jack, the same as a painting or a book. all artists want to make a living from their work, they succeed, because we don't like it we say it isn't art. it's there to sell ad space and all the other commercial shit as well but i'll tell you this jack, more people think it art than they do a poem or a fantastic painting by monet. it's art jack it's definitely someones art and will be seen to be so in the future.

Okay. Hypothetical situation: You're a black child at an all white school. The other kids call you names and pick on you constantly because you're black. Your parents and older black friends outside of school tell you you're fine, and you read about it in a book and decide that, yeah, it's okay to be black. But the other kids won't change their minds and still continue to pick on you. When all is said and done, you have to spend a significant amount of your life among those kids, they form the basis for your social development, so whether or not you know you're right and they're wrong doesn't really matter. They'll still reject you and you'll still be alone.

see in that situation they aren't rejecting you because you're black but because your different. probably because you fight to be different. the same can be said for rich and poor and a 100 other hundred hypertheticals, in some schools near when i lived in the uk they have an average of 1 .8 white kids per class of 30 to 40 and thats not hypothetical. some kids can't mix, in reality i'd tell my kids the facts of life, we live in a black community adapt or fall by the way side, and that i'm there if they need support if they do fall.

the glee club played glitter music, the world din't end fro anyone because of it, if he gets the chance he'll molest again rich or poor, the royalties he gets from glee won't allow him a better lawyer.
and the glitter thing is what the main question was about.

the bisexuality question was an addenda. one that's a bit of a fly in the ointment because it's the question thats taken over when it shouldn't have. i know as a matter of fact that if my kids at the age of ten or eleven thought themselves gay or bi and i told them it doesn't exist or it's not real and glee told them the same they'd laugh at me. often child have more problems than being gay to face. mixing with their peers being the hardest for some. do i think playing a glitter record was wrong, probably but it doesn't bother me really.

do i think them saying bisexuality doesn't exist was wrong; probably but personally i think it was more laughable. i think it's things like religion school education and even the playground that affect us in reality, shows like glee are just used as an excuse to further a cause. one way or the other. either way i take it for the shite it is and don't watch it.

i don't hold anyone or anything responsible for who or what i am but myself. even as i child i more or less held myself responsible for who i was and yes i do understand many kids and adults don't or can't. thankfully i don't have that heavy baggage to carry. but i am capable of carrying a bit of it for someone else should they need me to