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listen vf
having something powerful is not the same as knowing how to use something powerful
would you let a hoard of teenagers have the button to the nukes of world.

a bad analogy granted but i would let those kids have control of tap let alone a powerful idea.

powefull ideas are only powerful if executed properly. you said

Quote:It is grassroots protest in the Internet age at its most effective.
and i say bollocks. it a grass roots nothing what it is, is a group of kids who are looking for a little excitement.
they've achieved nothing ecept maybe make pirates a bigger target than they already were.

and saying it isn't easy to defend. it's as easy as shutting down the net and reopening it with strict regulations.
and to say they can't do it borders on the insane.

here's another bad analogy.

the jews. the whole world said "they can't do that, they won't do that. to many people will be up in arms" history showed us how wrong we were, showed us that 7 million jews could be killed and would be killed. we acted too late. we acted stupidly. those doing ddos attacks are opening a can of worms the internet and the world has never seen in this period of the internet. they if they carry on will bring about the downfall of the internet as we know it. do you think these kids would go to war if the states and other powers said right the net will be re built from the ground up. will they go to war when new laws with defined sentences are brought into being in order to lock these young up for a long time. in general the man in the street couldn't give a toss about them lock them up will be the mind set of adults who can't pay a bill because of them who lose a bank account because of them, who can't get a flight because of them. it's all well and good living and hoping for some great revelation that will bring down the powers that be but it's a fantasy, the way things are going 1984 will be here sooner than later. and it will be because of the assanges of this world and the kids who play at internet warfare. the real internet war hasn't started yet, when it does the kids best buy a pacifier and tell mommy they've been naughty. i don't believe wiki leaks is to blame. it all could have been done by a silent army (anon is not a silent army) but no. assange wanted fame. because of it wiki has lost its donations, and a lot of it's support and supporters, while assange believes he is the next messiah.

Quote:We are in the age of the early Internet cyber warfare skirmishes. This could go on for generations. Denial of service attacks coming from a chorus of machines with wide geographic dispersal is not easy to defend against. It is damn near impossible. There may never be any really effective ways to stop it.

i find the above to be the biggest load of clap trap i've read for a long time. if the govs of the world keep being held to ransom they will really go to war and again, when they do, they won't ask your or my or anyone elses permission. they'll do an irag or an afghanistan on the net and it will be all gone. all that will be left will be a few cells that have no power over a revamped net that has rules and regulations coming out it's wazoo. the likes of the uk will make give references before you get a new ip address. they will be the first thing to be restructured.

you'll end up with a few localised intranets like pirate radio stations of old. the masses will be squeezed in to a shoe box being allowed to only view information they want us to view.

fight by all means but when you go to war make sure your prepared.
it may well be the golden age of the internet as we speak and what did we get,? funny vids, naked tits and watermelons in the testicles. we got piracy and file sharing, we got freedoms like never before. what will we do with this golden age? we'll ditch it, we'll ditch it on the say so of some stupid jumped up australian oik and a group of deranged kids out to play games.

don't sit there and tell me the likes of quizie are at war with the man. they don't fuckin know the man. all they know is they can fuck about and create anarchy for an hour. they know not of the idea you speak of. it's comprehension is beyond the, it's beyong assange. file sharing is the golden age of the internet and we stand on the verge of destroying that dream. we abused it by openly declaring a war that can't be fought, let alone won. we shied away from the real strength we had and progressed to stupidity.
not that essence of our golden age, the very fabric of it is threatened because of an ego and childish pranks.. jmo of course.
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wikileaks - by srijantje - 11-29-2010, 09:18 PM
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