Global Warming

[billy]

Look i am not saying that it does not exist, what i am saying is that it is going to happen with or with out our assistance. That has nothing to do with the fact that what I am talking about is in fact historical and present day fact and will not be dismissed because some guy hollers conspiracy theory. Thats just another way they hide fact in plain site.
We have had and will have warming and cooling trends it is the way she works bill. Did you read the questions i asked or are you stuck on the title? Have you even bothered to look for evidence other than what you have been told in pirate forums? If you have then I say you are amoug the few, but i can tell from your response that you infact have not. Don't take it personal it's just an observation i have made and a conclusion i came up with on my own. Prove me wrong, do some investigating on your own, I have been looking for a long time but me suppling links will not in any way help others to find it on their own.
What it will indeed do is provide you and others with the material to dismiss me as just another conspiracy theorist and that I won't have as that is what i am not. Facts are facts, find them. It is the only way you may stand a chance of seeing the truth for yourself which is infact all i want.

of course we have climate change and of course it's a natural phenom. what isn't natural is how we affect it to the extent we are doing. to say we don't effect it is simply ludicous. look into the sky of any major city with your own eyes and tell that black sooty cloud that stretches hundreds and hundreds of miles doesn't affect climate change.

we affect it to say we don't, well that where the head in the sand and the burying of it comes into play.

benny i live in the philippines. i see people dying from the polution thats speeding up the climate change. benny stop with the supplying links stuff. you can't tell me i'm only looking at such and such links then say you've been doing lots of research re links yourself. i'm not talking about links. i'm talking about what i see. live in the philippines for a year and then tell me we don't affect climate change.

I beleive you see something happening there bill, i really do, but i do not see it here. I see it in Toronto when i go there but that is localized. The farther you get away from the city the less you see it. I've lived all over Canada and worked also. I can honestly say that i see no climate change as per say. I know that everything contributes to it, i'm not with an IQ so low as to be blind completely.

so if everything contributes to it, shouldn't we try and contribute to it less?
shouldn't we search for and use more wind power, wave poer even nuke power. instead of raping the earth.

people talk of rain forest and how much carbon they hold. well imagine all the carbon that they held for millenniums, all those dead leaves every year. all those fallen trees for 2 or 20 million years. all the carbon they held and think of us in just the last 100 year releasing only 1% of that carbon into the atmosphere. carbon above and beyond natures release via volcanoes etc. not only do we do that we kill carbon based creature to extinction. these dead fish no long fall to the bottom of the oceans in large quantities and trap carbon in the ocean sinks. no we catch so many of the fuckers they die out. we eat so many of the fucker releasing carbon that would usually be trapped in silt into an already polluted atmosphere.
we cut down rain forest and normal forest and turn it into farmland. where things would take and hold carbon for ten years they now hold it for a few months and it gets released again. the earths warehouse for co2 is full.

you say you don't see it. sj here says his mountains are dying, i say the philippines are dying, anytime you see a major city on the tv you can see its people are dying. and yet you talk about links. i can link with the best of them and for every link you show to say we don't affect it i'll show you two that says we are. i'm not talking about links benny.

i'm talking about fish quotas around the world being made so that we still have a few fish to catch. i'm talking about races such as the Inuit and Chechen losing for the first time in thousands of years the life they and their ancestors have always led. not just loosing it but doing so in a lifespan of a man. you may not see it where you live. but you live in a really smal part of the earth.

vfog linked to a site on pu that told about a melting glacier in the 40.s
if you read it it says because of aerosols (a fucking man made product) he's quoting a man made product as making a glacier melt and saying man plays no part in it. the link goes on to explain that theirs a reason this place melted so fast. it also states categorically that we play a part in climate change. how good is that, using a link to say we don't affect when if you actually read it is states we do affect it. also take into consideration this was in the 40's . most of us believe this has been going on since the industrial revolution. way before the 40's. and that's the proof people show to defend the rape of the fucking planet.

as an added thought take a look at india. the monsoon used to help the land. now it wipes the land away. and the people on it. it's become such a regular phenom in the last 20 years. or so. they've always had monsoon there but not like this.