dozens of bodies dumped in mine

[cigarbabe]

addicts are created after two or three fixes.
this is not a myth. after a first fix. most can say no to a secon fix. after a second fix that number drops dramatically. after a third and fourth fix it's almost impossible.

Billy I can't speak for most addicts.
I can only speak for myself and I don't know anyone who had an
addiction for heroin after using it a couple ie two or three times,not one!

if those fixes are weeks apart or even moths aprt them the heroin has already left the system and the tolerance is no where near the same.

It isn't about tolerance at first it is about wanting to use a particular substance whatever the drug is.

the thing is most (virtually all) people who go out, have a fix, don't just have a fix once a moth etc. most have their first fix on friday, 2nd on sat and third on sunday. after that they actively seek out a fix.
I don't believe that is true for most dope fiends.

cold turkey: the quickest way to get the drug out of the system, it's also only the first stage in getting the drug out of the system and keeping it out. certain drugs can be given to alleviate the cramps and to a smaller extent the sweats. even then the withdrawal symptoms can still be horrendous. methadone etc just creates other related problems. most junkies take their prescription methadone to tide them over till they get a real fix.

Billy have you ever been addicted to heroin?
No?
Then why do you keep trying to tell me what
is true when I've actually been through several methods of Methadone treatment and detox's?
I never took methadone as a way to hold me over until I could get more dope,never! Maybe those things happened or the clients told you these stories where you worked but I can assure you that is not the norm here in the states.

back to cold turkey. the normal practice is doing the cold turkey. then like alcoholics they have a guardian angel. in the case of an addict a much closer one whose usually a family member who can be with them virtually 24/7 for 6 months. after that it's daily or bi daily blood tests for a year most fall by the way side.

most people who sniff or smoke heroin waste most of it. only a small amount reaches the brain.

IT IS NOT THE SAME AS INJECTING.
snorting heroin takes about 10 to 15 mins to have a noticeable effect.
injecting take 7 to 8 seconds. it has a rush where the feeling hits you like a wave. if you wish i can look up a source.

I don't need a source since I've been there,done that but thank you anyway.
I only said I started out by sniffing and then I progressed to shooting it.
Cold turkey does not work as a method of keeping people off of drugs
and you should know that as a former counselor.

Heroin Addiction

Physical dependence develops with higher doses of the drug. With physical dependence, the body adapts to the presence of the drug and withdrawal symptoms occur if use is reduced abruptly. Symptoms of withdrawal include restlessness, muscle and bone pain, insomnia, diarrhea, vomiting, cold flashes with goose bumps, and leg movements.

Major withdrawal symptoms peak between 24 and 48 hours after the last dose of heroin and subside after about a week. Heroin withdrawal is never fatal to otherwise healthy adults, but the psychological effects can be so bad that the user might kill themself, rather than going through withdrawl.

To avoid physical addiction heroin should be used once every four days, maximum. If you take it on friday, wait till tuesday or later before doing it again. If you can limit your use to once every four days, physical addiction and tolerance problems are minimized. You will not require larger doses to produce the same results.

i'll put up the source if required.

the thing is most junkies didn't start by taking it every four days or once a week. they usually took five or six hits over two days. (injections) while under the influence of booze and other drugs such as coke

I'd love to view the source who thinks it's a good idea
to shoot dope every four days!
Never seen or heard of anyone even attempting to do such a thing.
That is unheard of!
Ask me or any former addict darling.
The second issue I have problems with is anyone who needs to take 5 or 6 shots
over a two day period has been shooting dope for quite a while.
I would have been dead even with the 1% dope I shot back then
had I taken it that often.
C.B.