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(06-14-2010, 07:49 AM)SidewaysDan Wrote:  Heroin is nasty.

I for one do not believe in its' legalization but I would rather it were decriminalized. That implies that no criminal charges would be applied when a user is caught (no time in prison) and help for those who have been caught. I fixed that for you S.D.Big Grin

I believe also that Cold Turkey may not be nice but it might be the best chance an addict has.

If it was legalized would run into the hands of teens quicker than you say "legalize it" and that is not a good position at all. It only takes one or two hits to get addicted and we all know how much peer pressure plays a part so it would destroy a large percentage, I believe.

First lets separate facts from myth,it does not take
one or two "hits" S.D. to become addicted.
That happens over many months usually at least it did for me and I had no idea that I had a problem with it because I didn't even use everyday as
I had heard you had to do.
I only sniffed it to start for years before getting a "habit".
There really wasn't any peer pressure for me I was just naive, bored and lets not forget STUPID!

Listen I'm not advocating selling drugs to teens or children only adults number one.
#2 Cold Turkey does not work for anybody!
#3 You can't throw up problems resulting from a fix to one problem and say it's no good
because it will get into kids hands?!!
That would be a problem with the idiots who would be stupid enough
to give anything to a child/teen like the guys who'll buy beer/cigs for them.
Check out the stats for "cold turkey" withdrawal and you'll find most of them as soon as they hit the streets get a fix right off the bat. You can't detox someone successfully in a week, ten days or a month
the treatment that works successfully is Methadone.
Period.
Billy the price I stated was for one years time, seven days a week to treat one addict is $5,200 per year.
These are not in-patient residential treatment centers as I'm assuming you're talking about.
Those costs would be substantially higher.
C.B.

Drug dealers can be ruthless and while legalization might remove that problem, it would create an array of whole new ones.

JMO.
(06-14-2010, 08:56 AM)billy Wrote:  i think decriminalization is the better route to go but even then
i think the risk would be great.
ho about executing heroin dealers, is that going to far, i actually like the idea
Yes Billy it would!
Thank you for your kind words srijante & Billy I really do appreciate it.
Big Grin
(06-14-2010, 09:35 AM)srijantje Wrote:  first off all,thanks for the input C.B.bit of a fresh angle.
to my knowledge,heroin is extremely cheap to produce once you lay your hands on the opium which we all know where to get.clean, uncut heroin,is not that bad for your health.most problems start if you don't have access to it,robbery,prostitution,health problems etc.
I agree pure heroin will kill you as we've seen firsthand here in the US.
The dope was only 40% and killed many people.
When I was using it was probably 19% if you were lucky.
Also the crap they cut it with is what causes death and some health issues too.
It may be cheap to source but by the time it gets here {the US}
the quality and quantity goes down considerably!


(06-14-2010, 09:44 AM)billy Wrote:  
(06-14-2010, 09:35 AM)srijantje Wrote:  first off all,thanks for the input C.B.bit of a fresh angle.
to my knowledge,heroin is extremely cheap to produce once you lay your hands on the opium which we all know where to get.clean, uncut heroin,is not that bad for your health.most problems start if you don't have access to it,robbery,prostitution,health problems etc.
i agree with SJ CB, great to have a fresh point of view.

most junkies would die from a fix of pure heroin. they're only used to doctored up shit. but yes it's cheap to source.thing is, gangs will be getting most of whats imported. and again for the books. any heroin is extremely bad for you. any substance that can make you addicted to hit have two or three intravenous injections will never be good for anybody. (it's a misconception) how much do you think the clinics will give away free? all they'll do is create a super junky. someone who can get it free will inject it more frequently and in doing so require larger amounts to inject. this is fact. the high tolerance of the drug has been clinically and medically proven.
Again thanks for the kind words guys!
C.B.
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