Please do not argue in the poetry threads

[milo]

That was a way longer reply than the question deserved . . .

Yes, I know. 

But the question comes up a lot, or circumstances often arise where I wouldn't mind knowing what the majority consensus is, so I took the opening.

fair enough.  I don't mind if anyone hijacks my thread.  i have occasionally tried to steer it back on topic if I want to practice specific techniques but even then it's just so I don't lose focus