01-11-2026, 12:09 AM
(01-10-2026, 11:50 PM)CRNDLSM Wrote:I have three daughters and I am very close with all of them. We frequently disagree about many things and that is the way I prefer it I enjoy challenging their precepts as I enjoy them challenging mine.(01-10-2026, 10:21 PM)milo Wrote:For what it's worth, if your daughter is an artist and still talks to you you're probably doing a great job, but to be an artist is to understand that beauty is worth studying, devoting time to learning color and texture and perspective. The fact that ai can do it without even thinking makes me wonder if it's even worth teaching anymore. No need to learn the different medians to express yourself, the computer can do it for you effortlessly. Maybe it comes down to money ultimately, but I think this cognitive dissonance is worth exploring. I just think there's better ways to do it than by promoting it. I appreciate your time here(01-10-2026, 09:15 PM)CRNDLSM Wrote: For one thing, ai art won't be monetized, by the pigpens standards AI poetry is considered plagiarism. Artists believe ai art steals their art styles in order to 'create'. I could use his prompts and draw new pictures, scan them into a computer and email them, obviously he likes what the ai did so I could use those as references.Oh, it is definitely some sort of cheating. My daughter, who is also an artist, was pretty disgusted with when I showed her. We had a decent argument about it last night. In many ways the cognitive dissonance is the point because this stuff is here and I am not going to put my hands over my eyes and pretend it’s not.
My cognitive dissonance here is watching respectful artists use ai as if it isn't some form of cheating.
Anyways offer still stands
I think about the future often and, for me, it looks sad but i wonder how much of that is a conservative value set clinging to my personal experience as the "correct" experience. I used to be quite the chess player. Not long ago, I could beat pretty much any computer in chess. Today, an iPhone could beat the best chess player in the world. I am surprised humans even bother anymore.
How much of this is a programmed "species" response to competition. Animals are genetically programmed to compete for resources. Humans have been on top for a pretty long run. Is the future of humanity not organic off-spring but data-based - as in, instead of passing on our genetic material will there come a time it makes more sense to pass humanity along through data exchange?
All of these questions create a dissonance and it is worth exploring. Poets need to explore challenging questions. For enough years, it has been individual mortality but you definitely see the mortality of species creeping in to poetry.
Anyway, me doing this is in no way an endorsement of AI but rather an exploration of these very concepts. As someone that has yoked themselves to creative concepts for so long it is strange to see such a radical shift. Now, granted, poetry has been worthless since before I was born, it is one of the things that drew me to it. But there was always an intrinsic value in the difficulty of creation to those few who cared or could recognize it and now it feels like that will soon be gone as well.

